Wearing a bra and breast cancer

Reseaching a national library of medicine database over a year ago. That article documented an increase in breast cancer rates between women who do wear bras versus those that do not.

That harvard study fascinated me and I searched the medical literature for possible explanations.

In essence, what singer and grismaijer study found was that the odds of getting breast cancer dramatically increased with bra-wearing over 12 hours per day.

* women who wore their bras 24 hours per day had a 3 out of 4 chance of developing breast cancer (in their study, n=2056 for the cancer group and n=2674 for the standard group).
* women who wore bras more than 12 hour per day but not to bed had a 1 out of 7 risk.
* women who wore their bras less than 12 hours per day had a 1 out of 152 risk.
* women who wore bras rarely or never had a 1 out of 168 chance of getting breast cancer. The overall difference between 24 hour wearing and not at all was a 125-fold difference.

A 125 fold difference is 12500%

(The MTV generation might not understand that a 125 fold increases=12500% NOT 125% so I repeated this.)

Lifestyle and diet studies for cancer always have differences in the region of 20 to 60% usually.

This is a 12500% difference.

4700 women took part in the study.

The results of this study are compelling, even considering that it was not a "controlled study" for other risk factors. Bear in mind that known (published in medical journals) risk factors for breast cancer are mostly in the range of less than three-fold differences. It should also be noted that singer and grismaijer surveyed bra-wearing behavior of the past, which is excellent for a disease with such a long development period. The authors show how most of the known risk factors can be related to bra-wearing behavior and/or the lymphatic system.

For example, breast feeding and pregnancy cause full development of the mammary lymphatics. Also, women of higher economic status have higher breast cancer rates, and one would expect that they would wear their bras more hours per day. Women who excercise have lower risk, which could relate to better lymphatic circulation (and I would add, more breast movement).

To this discussion, I would like to add that lymphatic circulation in many tissues (especially the primary lymphatics) are highly dependent on movement. When you sit for a long time on an airplane flight, your feet and ankles can swell, because lymphatic circulation goes to near zero. Wearing a bra, especially a constricting one with underwires, and especially to bed, prevents normal lymphatic flow and would likely lead to anoxia (lower than normal oxygen content), which has been related to fibrosis, which has been linked to increased cancer risk.

Women evolved under conditions where there was breast movement with every step that they took when they walked or ran. My reading of the scientific literature about lymphatic flow shows me that this may be as important as the constriction factor. Every subtle bounce of the breast while moving, walking, running, etc. Gently massages the breast and increases lymphatic flow and thus cleans the breast of toxins and wastes that arise from cellular metabolism.

Of course, there may be other mechanisms for the damage that bras apparently cause. One such mechanism could be temperature. Breasts are external organs and have a naturally lower temperature. Cancers can be temperature-dependent. Breast cancer is hormone-dependent. Temperature can alter hormone function. Breast temperature changes throughout the monthly cycle.

All these facts are from the medical literature. By whatever mechanism, someone will eventually explain why singer and grismaijer found a 125-fold difference in cancer rates between bra-free breasts and those constricted by 24-hour-per-day bra-wearing.

Also, just for an interesting experiment, the next time you walk down the street, notice visually how constricting bras are. On many women you can actually see "dents" around the sides of their chests where there bras are, even in something as opaque as a black t-shirt.

A physical therapist friend of mine, said that she was amazed at what she saw in her practice at a local medical clinic. She noticed how many women have red creases and grooves on the their bodies caused by their bras. Singer and grismajer also suggest that you simply stop wearing one for two weeks and see how you feel.

By the way, I have heard that they are currently working on a new study. The research is to study whether benign fibrocystic breast disease can be treated by stopping bra-wearing for eight weeks. That should be very interesting; this time they are involving medical doctors, from what i've heard.

Years ago, many people thought that the idea of cigarettes causing lung cancer was funny. Even if further research with highly controlled studies only shows a difference of 5-fold, or even 2-fold, it will be no laughing matter.

40000 women get breast cancer annually and over 10000 die from it in the uk.

Treating 40000 women for breast cancer annully generates revenues of about #65533;1billion from the use of cancer drugs.

Bra sales generate;3 billion annully in the Uk alone.

do wish you would actually read what is written instead of reading what YOU think is written.


The men would ONLY be blind folded when the women came over ok?

to stop indecent thoughts.


......or they hide in another part of the island until the women had left..

.....you got that.

After the women had left they would till the soil,plough,herd the animals,cut the corn......work in the fields in an islamic approved way and only using Koran approved methods


your comments regarding storms,etc is absurd.


God would have sent the storms to punish them for wrong thoughts or deviating from the correct path.


in other words it would be Gods will.


Islamic suicide bombers would be on the island.
Cut off from the rest of the world.

They would have no reason or motivation to bomb anyone.
They would be living in an islamic paradise with no women or technology to pollute their clean thoughts.

Osama would be in his paradise island having got what he wanted...a pure islamic state as it was in the medieval times.

Its what muslims crave.

I said it what muslims want,a return to the good old days with sharia law and no technology and science to undermine the islamic way....

Their society would be faith based and no questions would be allowed as all answers would reside with Mullah Absolute who would be in touch with Gods Will.


Poverty would not exist by definition as it would merely be Gods Will and punishment for wrong thoughts.


your remarks about democracy are"ridiculous".


Mullah Absolute would be in touch with Gods Will.

He would be leader until he died and replaced by his chosen successor.


see?

i have answered every single objection.

Now lets start this process of informing influential muslin leaders,cleric,mullahs,madrasas,Saudia and Asian business men to finance this idea and get it moving.

I am sure they would be delighted at an oppertunity to have a Pure Islamic State starting from year zero.

The sooner we can remove,isolate theses conflict inducers the better.

The sooner we can repeal the Patriot Act and the Homeland Security Act

The sooner this is done the sooner we can have universal peace.

Imagine John Lennon said Imagine the rest of the world world without
war,religion.....


Imagine.

Just Imagine.

in the first reply i gave you blood electrification trial results on malaria by sota...hope u find it useful.

in this 2nd reply i am going ask you to look up oscillating magnetic fields malaria in google.
http://www.washington.edu/newsroom/news/2000archive/03-00archive/k033000.html

it was found that 30% - 70% reduction occurred in fairly weak oscillating magnetic fields.

note the fields used were weak.no attempt was made to alter the frequency of the oscillation.

this experiment was done at the university of washington,usa.

the experiments were then cancelled as big pharma would lose lots of money in malaria drug sales if the method was further reseached and used.

how can you get an oscillatng magnetic field easily?

answer. use a bulk video/audio tape eraser !

these are cheap and last forever.they are powered by the mains.they cost about £20 from hardware shops.even second hand units would be fine.

they are NON-CONTACT AND NON-INVASIVE and very easy to use.

the person would sit near the device.or the device could be put near the liver and other blood areas or lymph nodes.

ideally large flat panels with oscillating magnetic fields would be ideal and the person would simply sit between the magnetic panels.

power would be from the mains.

its not difficult to make your own magnetic fields panels to any shape or size.all that is required is lots of oil of wire and magnetic materiel as found in old tv sets and monitors in the yoke assembley.
.
visit below url

http://www.washington.edu/newsroom/news/2000archive/03-00archive/k033000.html

please do this experiment on malaria using above research and a bulk tape eraser and post back the results.


no doubt as the field from a bulk tape eraser is much stronger results could be even better then the 30%-70% and also more consistant too.

also the frequency of oscilliation could be altered to further optimise it.

a problem that might occur is the field is very strong near the device but falls off rapidly with distance not fulling penetrating the body but by using flat panels with oscillating magnetic fields this problen can be solved.

however do the experiment with the bulk tape eraser.

please reply.

callum


After seeing Dawkins programme on C4 I have a proposed solution to Islamic and related fundamentalism regardless of faith , colour and creed.

This is a solution Dawkin would approve and probably be jealous of for not having thought of first. It neatly removes backward looking people from modern progressive peace loving societies.

Feel free to print this out and pass on to muslin scholers and fanatics.

Many muslims want to creat a muslim state under sharia law free from infidel pollution but their evil western secular governments wont allow it.

Thus it is suggested and strongly urged to all muslims to creat their own muslim state free from corruption and evil by buying three unpopulated islands in south east asia or the pacific.

We strongly urge a fund be created called Muslim State Fund to enable this to happen without delay.

Plenty of these islands exist completely unpopulated by people in South East Asia and the Pacific Ocean.

These 3 islands would serve separate functions and be ruled by a Mullah Absolute who will be in touch with Gods Will.

Island 1 would be populated by men only and only women would populate Island 2.

This would be to stop the corrosive and corrupting influence of women from interrupting their daily devotional duties.

Island 3 would be used to to procreate to create offspring.


Everyday women in burkhas would row over from Island 2 ,
3 miles away and give food to the men on Island 1 , 3 times a day.

The women would also cook and clean while the men would be blindfolded on Island 1 to avoid unclean thoughts.

Then the women would row back to their own Island 1 and be ready for the next day.

Mullah Absolute would rule all 3 Islands including Island 2.

Mullah Absolute's word would be law and his decrees without appeal.

His power would be to to ensure total devotion to Allah 24/7.

No electricity tv,phones,books would be allowed as these are unislamic and heathen devices and corrupting.

No music or dancing would be allowed as this is against Islam.

Anyone disobeying "Mullah Absolute in touch with Gods Will"
would be beheaded instantly.

No machines would be allowed.No planes, no cars,no technology

They would live as the Great Muhammed lived in medievel times.
They would plant seeds and plough the soil and harvest it all by hand.

All machines would be outlawed.

A 100 mile no fly exclusion zone would be created
to stop evil influences and distractions from the Islamic state peoples devotions.

Any one transgressing this zone would be shot down and beheaded.

The only book would be the Koran in Arabic.

The residents would live in natural caves and be forbiden to question Mullah Absolutes word on pain of instant beheading.

Just imagine this would be just like paradise on Earth for all true Muslims.

I urge everyone to start a fund immediately to create this Muslim State with Sharia Law Absolute.

Just imagine how all true muslims would flock to this awesome palace of true Islam.

This would remove these dangerous people from society and all Earth can benefit from civilization free from religious bigotery and hatred.

Copyright:-
Ese Callum
Circa 160106




As many people will have seen by the vast explosion of MRSA forumson the internet MRSA is a very serious plague rampant in hospitals and more than 30000 are dying as a direct and CONTRIBUTERY cause of their death.

The nurses who are supposed to be looking afer the patients have stopped doing so as evidenced by reports from the relatives and victims of mrsa.

Nurses attentions seem to be focused on "last night" every time you hear them conversing.

Todays so called nurses in the NHS are very sloppy and seem to be mentally else where when come to work.

They simply dont care about their patients.This is why mrsa is rampant through all the hospitals.This dereliction of duty has been promoted by text and mobile phones and fostered a culture of "I could not care less attitude".

They seem very busy gossiping about "last night' meaning who shagged who and how much binge drinking they did and who they vomited over.

They sit in their cubicles reading magazines and papers and manicuring their nails whinging about their latest moronic boyfriend who beats them up after coming home from the pub.

These nurses are paid £33000 annuelly for doing very little work.They are always whining about their 'low pay'.

They should be charged with murder or at the very least manslaughter every time a patient dies in their "care".

That should help them focus their minds on the job instead of their sordid sexploits.

Its possible some mrsa may be caused by their promiscous behaviour spreading it in the hospital also.

Its time you people took these 'nurses' to task for not caring for their patients.

You should shout at them and demand that they do their job for which they are paid a king's ransom and which mostly goes on binge drinking and 'nights out'.

You should demand decisive action and minute by minute accountability of how they spent their day every day.Remember it could be you.

YOU at their mercy next time.

Thats right You will very probably get mrsa next time YOU go into hospital and the drugs have nearly stopped working.Even Vanco.....

You will suffer a horrible death if you dont act now!!!

Be very scared when you go into hospital.



Todays so called nurses in the NHS are rubbish.They simply dont care about their patients.This is why mrsa is rampant through all the hospitals.This derelictin of duty has been promoted by text and mobile phones and fostered a culture of "I could not care less attitude".

They seem very busy gossiping about "last night' meaning who shagged and how much binge drinking they did and who they vomited over.
They sit in their cubicles reading magazines and papers and manicuring their nails whinging about their latest moronic boyfriend who beats them up after coming home from the pub.

These nurses are paid 33000 pounds annuelly for doing very little work.They are always whining about their 'low pay'.

They should be charged with murder or at the very least manslaughter every time a patient dies in their "care".
That should help them focus their minds on the job instead of their sordid sexploits.

Its possible some mrsa may be caused by their promiscous behaviour spreading it in the hospital also.

Its time you people took these 'nurses' to task for not caring for their patients.

You should shout at them and demand that they do their job for which they are paid a king's ransom.


"And lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them. And the angel said, Fear not, I bring unto you good tidings of great joy for unto you this day is born in the City of Bethlehem, a Savior, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; you shall find the babe wrapped and lying in a manger. And suddenly there was a multitude, praising God, and saying, 'Glory to God in the highest, and on Earth peace, good will toward men. That's what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown."


WHAT TO DO IF I CONTRACT ANTIBIOTIC RESISTANT MRSA.

With MRSA infections increasing rapidly in and out of hospitals the below information will save Ir life and limb if followed carefully after other options like pharamaceutical drugs have failed I.

I should always consult a registered health practitioner and use the below information as a last resort although using it earlier may help I to avoid complications as the treatment is not harmful if followed as below.

It is non-patentable , non-drug based and therefore not profitable for established pharmaceutical companies.

Ir doctor will dismiss it automatically but I should do Ir own research using a search engine like google.


If I are infected with antibiotic resistant MRSA and wish to save Ir limb and life then the following set of instructions will save Ir life.I suggest I save this information and pass it around.

If a limb has become infected with MRSA and Ir doctor suggests amputation and if I dont want it amputated then wash the effected limp in warm water and scrub gently away any dead surface skin cells.

While the limb is still wet put it in a thick plastic bag and seal it in with sellotape around the edges so thats its airtight.

Next get a the hose from an Ozone generator and make a small hole in the bag and seal it with sellotape to make it airtight.

Then switch on the ozone generator and leave it on for from 1 to 4 hours depending on severity of infection.

I can repeat the treatment over a few days for very acute cases.

The ozone gas will kill any MRSA on the skin and transdermal zxone will go through the skin and kill any MRSA inside the limb.

Its a good idea to open the windows while I are ozonating the limp as ozone is not good for the lungs.


If the infection is not in a limb which can be easily wrapped in a plastic bag then do the up to the neck ozone bagging again using sellotape to seal the bag at the neck so its airtight.Use a large thick binliner and stand in it while a friend/relation seals I up.Again open the windows.

But have a warm bath prior to ozone bagging and again to speed things up a gentle scrubbing to remove dead skin before bagging.

I will find this saves Ir limb and life.

Ozone generators can be purchased from google and can cost from £160 upwards and last a very long time.

The generator costing around £160 or $200 will be more then adequate as long as the ozone output is around 200 to 300 mg/hour.

Drinking ozonated cold water will increase the elimination of the MRSA infection and associated toxins even more quickly.

I suggest I all look up medical ozone in google or transdermal ozone or ozone bagging or variations thereof.

This will give I additional research materiels

I already have an ozone generator and routinely drink ozonated water to keep healthy.The water gives I a slightly heady feeling as if I had too much oxygen for a few seconds after I drink it.

The point of this information is to enable I to save Ir own life and limb after other options have failed I.

I should save this information as a text file and spread it around.


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Dear Sirs

Malaria kills at least 3000 children a day and up to 6000 people a day in Africa and Asia.

Passing 50 to 100 microamperes of simple d.c. electrical current through infected blood disables the pathogens and stops it reproducing it was discovered in 1992.

It also works on a broad range of other viruses/bacteria including Hep-A,B,C and also quite importantly for Malaria.You may know malaria is becoming increasingly drug resistant.

See trial study for Malaria at the end below.

BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION.
Research conducted at Albert Einstein College of Medicine, 1300 Morris Park Ave., Bronx, N.Y.10461 in New York

SIMPLE SUMMARY OF METHOD
The current of 0.0003 to 0.001 amps is passed through electrodes of size 0.5 cm by 2 cm located over wrist artery pulse points on each wrist or same wrist.
The current direction may be reversed every 3 or 4 minutes.

PRACTICAL DETAILED APPLICATION.
Remember it is simple electrical current nothing else that disable the virii/pathogens.In the case of the virii the electrical current stops it reproducing by altering the outer protein layer of the pathogen and the bodys immune system removes the remaining viruses.


The level of the current is very low, 0.025 amps is required to electrocute a person.

These devices only use 0.0003 amps to 0.001 amps maximum.This is much less than a Tens device.

1 microampere is 0.000001 amps.

The practical device to neutralise Malaria inside the body consists of two 0.5cm by 2cm long electrodes wrapped in wet cotton or alternatively conductive foam attached to wrist pulse points or other major artery points and then a direct current of 300 microamperes to 1000 microamperes is passed through the electrodes and then through the blood.

(0.3 Milliamps to 1 Milliamps MAX to allow for losses through the skin. 1 milliamp=0.001 amps)

The current maybe adjusted to suit the condition or individuals. These electrodes are simply taped to the wrist artery or other pulse points where large volumes of blood are flowing.

It is important to use these particular electrode dimensions as the current density must be maintained at 4 to 9 microamperes per square millimetre of electrode.

The higher currents near 1 milliamp produce more rapid results.

Every 5 minutes the current direction is reversed to prevent possible electrolysis.The voltage required to drive this current is from 20 to 40 volts max depending on skin resistance.

Four 9 volt batteries in series would be sufficent.In poorer countries three 12 volt car batteries can be used in series. Mains adapters can also be used.

Application times vary from 20 minutes to up to an hour or more daily depending on condition.

BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION RESULTS.
At Beck-n-Stuff and Microelectricitygermkiller a number of private individuals have tried it for a number of viral/bacterial conditions including , Malaria, Cfs, lymphomas and other Cancers with excellent results backed up by blood tests have submitted reports.

The devices are very easy to make yourself and instructions are included at the links below.

Also remember many cancers are caused by virii, bacteria and fungi and parasites as well as genetic and environmental reasons.

http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm <---full research paper


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ <----how to make devices yourself.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-n-stuff/ <---user groups of electromed


More general information can be found by typing 'BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION' or 'BECK PROTOCOL'
in web browser.



......recently concluded a small trial we conducted in conjunction
with a medical doctor in Nigeria.

....we relie on doctors who have been exposed to the BECK Protocol to
approach us about conducting a study. MALARIA

A Medical Doctor in Nigeria contacted us in 2001 asking if the blood
electrification aspect of the BECK Protocol was effective against
Malaria. We told him we didn't know but it could be. We sent him a
unit to try on one person who was willing to try it and whose life
would not be put into danger by trying it. About two months later we
heard back from him—the units had been effective with malaria in 5
out of 6 people.

Then we began the long journey (almost eighteen months) of putting
together a proper small trial study. The Nigerian government gave us
a letter of support. Unfortunately due to cultural differences
everything took a lot longer to accomplish. We learned much about
patience. In the end, we decided to stop the study prematurely (we
were originally hoping to have 60 people included in the trial). When
we stopped the trial, 37 people had been enrolled. Stopping
prematurely meant that several of them had not finished the protocol
or the testing. Another limitation was the fact once people tested
negative for malaria, they no longer returned to complete testing and
lab work (they were well so why keep returning to the doctor).

Of the 37 people, 12 were women and 25 were men. The age range was
from 18 to 38. Subjects were either asymptomatic or symptomatic with
malaria. We were unable to test the protocol on individual's with
resistant malaria cases. The type of malaria was P. Falciparum, known
to be the worst strain.

Blood Electrification was administered daily for one hour until lab
work showed negative for malaria. Each person was to be tested for
malaria on days 0, 3, 7, 14 and 28.

Only 8 people completed all the testing. Of these 7 tested negative
for malaria and 1 still tested for malaria.

14 people completed the blood electrification and tested negative,
but they did not complete all of the lab work subsequent to testing
negative.

11 people didn't finish the protocol due to the study being stopped.
Of these 11, all of their malaria loads were reduced, but not
negative.

3 people's records weren't complete so we cannot use the details.

1 person was removed from the study before beginning because they
also had typhoid and due to the parameters of the study they could
not be included with the study.

An important note is that the majority of people testing negative
showed negative between day 3 and day 7 testing. Also, virtually
everyone had a significant reduction or elimination of symptoms on
day 3.

This study is by no means conclusive, however we feel it has given us
some good information as to the possible effectiveness of blood
electrification as per Bob Beck with malaria. We are very much
interested in continuing the research in this area, and are doing our
best at finding funds that may be available to us now that we have an
indication of the effectiveness.
We have other research projects that are in the beginning
administrative stages. Once completed we will release the information.

DONATING BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION DEVICES.

SOTA has also been donating units to a few organizations in Africa.
One such group operates out of remote villages in South Africa. They
have approximately 90 health care workers that go out into the
villages, trying to help people. SOTA sent them several units to use
in the villages. We have not had a lot of feedback from them...you
can imagine how difficult communication is between third world
conditions in these villages and our ultra-modern society. However
the feedback we get always touches our hearts. We are planning on
sending a unit for each of their health care workers so that they
will be able to help more individiuals. We have recently designed a
unit for those in economically poor countries so they can afford what
we consider the most important part of the BECK Protocol—blood
electrification.

We have been told that people in the villages line up to use the
units. The blood electrification units have to be shared and so go on
to the next worker in another village. Unfortunately this means the
treatment gets stopped prematurely in each village. For this reason
we are going to send one unit per heatlh care worker.

Its vital to remember that malaria kills more people than news fashionable diseases like Aids or Sars.

These devices are very simple to make and very low cost.Many people can be treated at the same time.No complicated drugs with side effects are involved.I urge you to investigate and pursue this and to conduct your own experiments to satisfy yourself.

Perhaps support could be invited from Bill Gates or Richard Branson and other media celebrities.

Many people in this forum will have contacts in Microsoft and maybe with Bill Gates and could advise him to focus on this ultra low cost non drug based method.Remember its broad spectrum and not confined to Malaria.

I urge the people reading this to study this and save the information or webpage and pass it on to young bright biophysics student groups for further study if they cant do anything themselves.

You should get a student group or a close associate to do the preliminary experiments/trials and then proceed full steam ahead.

Full instructions on how to make the simple low cost blood electrification devices are included in the above urls.Remember blood electrification can be applied to other conditions too as well as malaria. Some people state they feel much better after using blood electrification due to a lower virial load in the blood.

I hope you will respond to this email and help the many people suffering and dying in Africa and Asia.

The point of this information is for you to further study and implement the findings and start saving lives.

Dr E. Callum


DUE TO CENSORSHIP BY THE BBC AND THE GOVERNMENT THIS AMENDED POST HAS BEEN PUT UP TO HELP PEOPLE BEING CHARGED EXTORTIONATE AMOUNTS FOR OIL.


FIRESTORM SPARKPLUG INVENTION DOUBLES ENGINE EFFICIENCY THEREFORE HALVING FUEL CONSUMPTION.

THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT
THIS AS THEY WOULD LOSE MONEY FROM TAXES AND ALSO THE OIL COMPANIES.

I would advise all people worried about carbon emissions,global warming and the rising price of oil as well as the rising price of peak oil to investigate Robert Krupas's new spark plug design which increases engine efficiency,and elininates internal combustion engines emissions altogether.

This spark plug design does not use electrode points but has a dome shaped point and the the high voltage generates a plasma between the electrodes instead of a spark. The engine burn is very clean.

40 parts air to 1 part of fuel.

Its been tested by CENSORED and others and confirmed to work but it would compete with their own spark plugs and also lasts much longer as no wear and tear on the electrodes due to absence of sharp pointed electrodes.

Do not be frightened by the word plasma.You see plasmas every day in flourescent light tubes.

Every one who is interested in global warming,carbon emissions and global oil supplies and the rising cost of fuel should see the interview on the website and Robert Krupa being interviewed by Robert Stanley.

You will see the Firestorm spark plug in action compared to a standard spark plug using pictures and photographs and all your questions will be answered.

LINK--CENSORED AGAIN :-

Type "Robert Krupa Robert Stanley firestorm spark plug" in google.

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this research was done at ALBERT EINSTEIN college of Medicine in
NEW YORK NEW YORK (so good they named it twice)
Paper by W. Lyman, et a1. Reporting Inactivation of AIDS Virus by Electric Current
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
CHECK IT YOURSELF!!! do you understand????????
treatment for Cancer/Aids was actually discovered and suppressed
by the drug cartels and involved passing a
SMALL electrical current of 100 microamperes OR 0.0001 amps
through the infected blood and this disabled the aids virus.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND.
DO YOU?
NO WELL LET ME EXPLAIN FURTHER
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
CHECK IT YOURSELF.DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW ?
As this method did not involve the use of drugs the pharmaceutical companies
who are very powerful managed to suppress any attempts to bring this to
mainstream usage.do you find this difficult to understand?
CHECK IT YOURSELF BELOW
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
if you dont believe me TYPE BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION
IN WEB BROWSER.DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
DO YOU ?
YOU COULD BE NEXT TO DIE FROM CANCER AIDS
AND MANY OTHER DISEASES .DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
A man called Robert Beck actually implemented the treatment using electrodes
attached to the wrist and passing a SMALL 50 TO 100 microamperes current through them.
you can find out more by typing Robert Beck in web browser
or " BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION". in web browser
do you UNDERSTAND?
The pharmaceutical cartel would LOSE a lot of MONEY
if the method was used on a large scale and continue with SUPPRESSION
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS ?
IS IT DIFFICULT FOR YOU ? LET ME EXPLAIN AGAIN
YOU DONT HAVE TO BELIEVE ME.CHECK IT FOR YOURSELF.
HELP
HELP HELP HELP !!!!!!!!!!!
SPREAD THE WORD NOW!!!!!!!!!!! SPREAD THE WORD
i ask you to study this for yourself and help the many people who are suffering from Aids , Cancer
, Malaria and Typhoid EVERYWHERE
I understand the incidence is 1 in 3 now for cancer now.YOU COULD BE NEXT
TO SUFFER FROM CHEMO AND DIE A HORRIBLE PAINFUL DEATH
and be pumped full of toxic drugs which dont work
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
CHECK IT YOURSELF.CHECK IT YOURSELF
Last year 126050 people died fom cancer in the u.k.
245040 DIED FROM PRESCRIPTION DRUGS FROM DOCTORS
and HOSPITALS IN THE USA last year AMA report says.
245040 last year killed by PHARMACEUTICAL companies.
how many ? HOW MANY SEPTEMBER 11 s is that ?
3500 people killed by terrorists last year.
50000 hours of publicty by CBS AND NBC AND CNN
24 HOURS A DAY
245040 killed by PHARMACEUTICAL companies last year
from drug side effects.you understand ?
no mention at all by the MAJOR NEWS MEDIA. WHY .WHY ?
WHY ??? I ASK YOU ?
this is eqivalent to 25 planes crashing into 25 world trade centres.
do you understand these figures ??? DO YOU ???
how much publicity was there on CNN NBC CBS about this ??????
none NONE . do you UNDERSTAND ?
this is because these media networks get BILLIONS in advertising revenue
to plug their worthless prescription drug remedies.
YOU COULD BE NEXT to die from side effects from these toxic dangerous drugs
last night i heard the playwright Harold Pinter had throat cancer
George Harrisons £140 million fortune did not save him as
the doctors did not tell him and used the most advanced chemotherapy instead
THEY used the MOST ADVANCED CHEMO.
THE MOST ADVANCED CHEMO ON THE BEATLE GEORGE HARRISON
THE MOST ADVANCED CHEMO THERAPY
NEXT MORNING GEORGE HARRISON WAS DEAD DEAD
DEAD.DO YOU UNDERSTAND? DEAD
do you understand
AND A BILL FOR $1,879 000
WAS SENT TO HIS WIDOW.DO YOU UNDERSTAND???
DRUG COMPANY SAYING: "A PATIENT CURED IS A PATIENT LOST"
A CURED PATIENT MAKES NO MONEY FOR THE DRUG CARTELS
DO YOU UNDERSTAND this ?
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
The method can also be applied to cancer causing viruses.
Remember the passing of a small electrical current of between 50 to 100 microamperes disables the viruses
and the very low cost of such a method has resulted in its suppression .
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
as the drug companies would lose billions as their expensive drugs are sidestepped.
the device can be made easily by using four 9 volts batteries in series and a variable resistor to
adjust the current plus wet cloth covered 1 cm square electrodes taped to each of the pulse points on each wrist.
Or alternatively a variable 25 to 50 volt voltage source can be used.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND? you YOU can build the devices in your house OK
how ? HOW ? HOW ? YOU ASK ? HERE'S HOW
full FREE instructions on HOW to BUILD at:-
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
you can find more detailed information if you type BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION in your web browser.
I AM NOT SELLING YOU ANYTHING.DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
A number of private individuals have tried and found it works for many conditions.
including cancer aids and cfs and others.DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
its impossible to bring it to widespread use as drug
company advisers have the ear of
government officials.DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
you want proof ? PROOF ? HERE is the PROOF.read and weep.
The ORIGINAL SCIENCE PAPER IS AT :-
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
HOW TO MAKE THE DEVICES FULL FREE INSTRUCTIONS AT:-
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
more DETAILED general treatment protocol information can be found if you type in web browser
"BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION"
do you UNDERSTAND what i am saying ?
SPREAD THE NEWS.SSSSPPPRRREEAAADDDD THE NNEEEWSSSS!!!!
pharmaceutical companies are SUPPRESSING
broad spectrum use BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION would make destroy their
vast 1200 billion a year profits and governments get a CUT of that in taxes.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS ? YOU PEOPLE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
the devices can be very cheaply made.about 20 dollars maximum and only use electricity.
the research paper is detailed below and is available on the internet at:-
THE RESEARCH WAS DONE AT ALBERT EINSTEIN COLLEGE OF MEDICINE IN NEW YORK
AND HAS BEEN SUPPRESSED BY THE DRUG CARTEL
THE ORIGINAL SUPPRESSED SCIENCE RESEARCH PAPER IS AT:-
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
CHECK IT YOURSELF
AND SAVE THE INFO BEFORE THEY SUPPRESS IT.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
spread sprreeadd the NEWS OK? tell people in the streets
sppprrreead spread the word sprreadd thhheee WORD !!!!!!!!!!!!!
TELL PEOPLE IN THE BUSES
SHOUT it from the ROOFTOPS .shout it from the ROOFTOPS
TELL PASSERSBY.stop people in the STREET TELL THEM
TELL THEM ABOUT THIS SUPPRESSION
ask your congressman why BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION HAS BEEN SUPPRESSED
demand from your CONGRESSMAN WHY ITS BEEN SUPPRESSED
demand an EXPLANATION
demand from your media EDITORS why they why been suppressing this
vital information.
IS IT BECAUSE THEY GET BILLIONS IN ADVERTISING DOLLERS
FROM DRUG COMPANIES EH?
stop stop STOP this CORRUPTION
stop this SUPPRESSION
power to the PEOPLE
POWER TO THE PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yours sincerely.
dr nurse in sexy stockings
u understand
eh?
what
you want me to repeat it again??
did you not understand it?
ok buts really tiring for me
i did win typist of the year award though
i should bill u for this
my time
is valuable
i am trying to save
your sorry skins eh?
what
what u mean
u beggin me
ok
here goes

ok here goes.
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
SUMMARY
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
Appendix E Paper by W. Lyman, et a1. Reporting Inactivation of AIDS Virus by Electric Current
Keywords: Keywords: W. Lyman, et l, AIDS, Electric Current, lymphoblastoid cell lines (H9 and CEM-SS), HIV-1, AIDS, tritiated thymidine (3H-TdR), HBWSS, Syncytium-formation assay, varicella, The RF Strain, (SDH), H+(ATP).
BIOCOMPATIBLE ELECTRIC CURRENT ATTENUATES HIV-I INFECTIVITY
William D. Lyman, Irwin R.Merkatz
William C. Hatch and Steven C. Kaali
Departments of Pathology,
and Obstetrics & Gynecology
Albert Einstein. College of Medicine,
1300 Morris Park Ave., Bronx, N.Y.10461
Running title: Electricity reduces HIV-1 infectivity
Correspondence: Dr, Wm.. D. Lyman
Department of Pathology
Albert Einstein College of Medicine
1300 Morris Park Avenue
The Bronx, NY 10461
(212) 430-217
SUMMARY
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
Appendix E Paper by W. Lyman, et a1. Reporting Inactivation of AIDS Virus by Electric Current
Keywords: Keywords: W. Lyman, et l, AIDS, Electric Current, lymphoblastoid cell lines (H9 and CEM-SS), HIV-1, AIDS, tritiated thymidine (3H-TdR), HBWSS, Syncytium-formation assay, varicella, The RF Strain, (SDH), H+(ATP).
BIOCOMPATIBLE ELECTRIC CURRENT ATTENUATES HIV-I INFECTIVITY
William D. Lyman, Irwin R.Merkatz
William C. Hatch and Steven C. Kaali
Departments of Pathology,
and Obstetrics & Gynecology
Albert Einstein. College of Medicine,
1300 Morris Park Ave., Bronx, N.Y.10461
Running title: Electricity reduces HIV-1 infectivity
Correspondence: Dr, Wm.. D. Lyman
Department of Pathology
Albert Einstein College of Medicine
1300 Morris Park Avenue
The Bronx, NY 10461
(212) 430-217
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
SUMMARY
In this report, we present the results of double-blinded studies on the use of
direct electric current to alter the infectivity o£ HIV-1 for susceptible cells in vitro.
Two lymphoblastoid cell lines (H9 and CEM-SS) were exposed to aliquots of
the RT strain of HIV-1 treated with direct current. Results of these studies show
that virus treated with currents from 50 to 100 microamperes (ìA) has a significantly
reduced infectivity for susceptible cells.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
These experimental currents were equal to 3.85 and 7.7microamps /mm2 current densities respectively.
The reduction of infectivity was dependent upon,
the total electric charge (ìA x min) passing through the chamber to which the virus was exposed.
Viral infectivity was determined by two independent measures:
a syncytium-formation assay which can be used to quantify the production
of infectious particles; and. a reverse transcriptase assay which is an index of
viral protein production. Additional experiments demonstrated that the currents
employed were biocompatible. Uninfected H9 cells were exposed to the same conditions
used for the viral aliquots.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ??
DO YOU ?
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
There was no significant change in the percentage of viable uninfected cells
exposed to any of the currents tested. Therefore, because biocompatible direct electric
current attenuates the infectivity of cell-free virus, this treatment may allow development
of new strategies to prevent transmission of HIV-1 through either treating the general
blood supply or developing alternative barrier contraceptive devices. Additionally,
biocompatible electric. current may be applicable for the direct treatment of AIDS patients
by utilizing either extracorporeal systems or self contained indwelling electrodes.
Biocompatibility of the electric currents/time:
PROOF ? YOUY WANT PROOF ? HERE IS THE PROOF:-
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW ?
The results of a viability analysis using trypan blue exclusion criteria applied to uninfected cells
exposed to the different currents and times used far these studies are shown in Table 4.
The viability of H9 cells, after exposure to 100ìA fur either 3 or b minutes, did not show a
significant decrease when compared to the 0 Current control. After maximum treatment
at 100ìA for 6 minutes, cell viability was 93%. Interestingly, in other preliminary experiments
in which HIV-infected H9 cells were used, the results show that at 100 ìA there may have been
a significant decrease in the number of viable cells.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS ?
That is, while an insta ntaneous
pulse of 100 microamps did not affect the viability of infected cells, at 3 and 6 minutes of
exposure to 100 microamps, a decrease in viability was noted. This decrease was
time dependent in that exposure to 100 microamps Afar 3 min utes resulted in a
viability of 83% while 100 microamps for 6 minutes resulted in a viability of 80%.
DO YOU UNDERSTAN ? DO YOU ?
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
In summary, the data presented here indicate that biocompatible direct electric current
significantly reduces the infectivity of HIV-1. Continuing investigations are exploring the
mechanisms through which this effect is mediated. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
The in itial focus of these experiments is centered on the potential role which ionic and molecular species generated by
electrolysis may have on the virus. However, the complete mechanism by which direct
electric current attenuates HIV-1 infectivity is undoubtedly far re complex than simple
electrolysis. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS ?
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
Nonetheless. and independent of a complete understanding of all of the mechanisms
involved in the attenuation of HIV-1 infectivity, the present observations
may serve as an initiaI step for the development of new strategies to treat infection
or prevent transmission of HIV-1 through either treat ing the general blood supply
or developing alternative barrier contraceptive devices.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS ?
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
It may also be feasible to treat AIDS patients with direct electric current using either extracorporeal systems
or self contained indwelling electrodes. Lastly, because viral infectivity is being
attenuated, electric current may render treated HIV-1 suitable for vaccine development.
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW ?
WELL DO YOU ??
yours sincerely
dr sexy stockings
you did not understand ?
well you want me to repeat it ?
again ?
i am not made of steel ok
i am a human being with muscles
you are begging me to
ok but i my time is woth money
ok
here goes ok
here goes then



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WITH FRONT LAWNS WE TRIM THOSE FRONT LAWNS .......WE HAVE BARBECUES
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U DOGS ASSHOLES REMEMBER WE CAME UP FROM ZERO TO HERO IN 300 YEARS
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LAZY AND STUPID THEY SMOKE WEED ALL DAY
AND SIT AROUND ALL DAY THEY ARE THIEVES AND AN A BLACK EYESORE
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WHILE U BASTARDS ARE LIVING IN MUDHUTS
AND ARE POOR AND DIRTY AND STUPID AND LAZY
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AND IN ALL THE HOLY PLACE
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AND WE ARE VERY EDCATED AND YOU ARE ALL VERY VERY BACWARDS AND VERY STUPID
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BUT YOU WILL NEVER BE AMERICANS
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U ONLY DIS AMERICA COS YOU ARE SCARED AND OF PEER GROUP PRESSURE U HYPOCRITS
OF BEING INFERIOR AND COS YOU ARE NOT VERY GOOD AT WORKING
U SLEEP ALL DAY U R VERY ENVIOUS OF USA FOX NEWS U NIGGER
U BASTARD WE ARE FREE WE FREE PEOPLE WE ARE FREE
AND RICH U ARE POOR AND ENVIOUS WE FREE IRAK FROM SADDAM MULIN TYRANNY
AT LAST IRAKIS CAN ENJOY FREE SPEECH AND MCDONALDS
SADDOM IILLED 1.2 MILLION FROM REPRESSION AND WAR U IGNORANT BASTARD
U NEVER SAW ON TV SO U IGNORE THAT FACT U SHITHEAD


shocked by this SCUM COMPS
245040 INNOCENT PEOPLE KILLED by PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES with their dangerous prescription drugs last year
in USA alone . do you understand ?
the major media like CNN AND CBS AND NBS never mentioned this once as they get paid BILLIONS
in advertising revenue by these drug companies.
do YOU understand ?
the major news media instead spent more than FIFTY THOUSAND HOURS
GOING ON ABOUT THE 3500 innocent people killed in the world trade centres
50 000 hours do u understand?
NO MENTION about the 245040 killed by the PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES in ONE year!!!!!!!!!!!!
and the 1 200 340 HOSPITALISED due to adverse side effects from these drugs.
do you UNDERSTAND this ???
did you know 28 people died from Cipro then from the 5 who died from anthrax attacks ?
348 suffered brain damage caused by the drug Cipro .
did the major news media mention this ?
NO !!!!! as they get paid to advertise Cipro
DID YOU UNDERSTAND ?
hi folks hi there
you ok
how is everyone?
want to chat ?
you there ? are you allright ?
i said are you allright
listen i have found something really important....
its very important news. very important.....
do you want to know what it is ?
its SHOCKING by the way you will be AMAZED
you will be astonished ASTONISHED and SHOCKED!!!!!
then you will be ENRAGED
you will be OUTRAGED that this has been kept from you
its really really cool. oh no they are trying to STOP me
hey they are trying to stop me!! have you got pen and paper?
write this down before i get assassinated by the drug companies
help help please spread this.they are trying to stop me!!!
THE DRUG COMPANIES ARE TRYING TO STOP ME
FROM TELLING YOU THIS. HELP HELP HEEEELLLLLPPPPP!
ATTENTION PLEASE!!!!!
LISTEN PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LISTEN.THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT
this research was done at ALBERT EINSTEIN college of Medicine in
NEW YORK NEW YORK (so good they named it twice)
Paper by W. Lyman, et a1. Reporting Inactivation of AIDS Virus by Electric Current
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
CHECK IT YOURSELF!!! do you understand????????
treatment for Cancer/Aids was actually discovered and suppressed
by the drug cartels and involved passing a
SMALL electrical current of 100 microamperes OR 0.0001 amps
through the infected blood and this disabled the aids virus.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND.
DO YOU?
NO WELL LET ME EXPLAIN FURTHER
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
CHECK IT YOURSELF.DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW ?
As this method did not involve the use of drugs the pharmaceutical companies
who are very powerful managed to suppress any attempts to bring this to
mainstream usage.do you find this difficult to understand?
CHECK IT YOURSELF BELOW
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
if you dont believe me TYPE BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION
IN WEB BROWSER.DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
DO YOU ?
YOU COULD BE NEXT TO DIE FROM CANCER AIDS
AND MANY OTHER DISEASES .DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
A man called Robert Beck actually implemented the treatment using electrodes
attached to the wrist and passing a SMALL 50 TO 100 microamperes current through them.
you can find out more by typing Robert Beck in web browser
or " BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION". in web browser
do you UNDERSTAND?
The pharmaceutical cartel would LOSE a lot of MONEY
if the method was used on a large scale and continue with SUPPRESSION
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS ?
IS IT DIFFICULT FOR YOU ? LET ME EXPLAIN AGAIN
YOU DONT HAVE TO BELIEVE ME.CHECK IT FOR YOURSELF.
HELP
HELP HELP HELP !!!!!!!!!!!
SPREAD THE WORD NOW!!!!!!!!!!! SPREAD THE WORD
i ask you to study this for yourself and help the many people who are suffering from Aids , Cancer
, Malaria and Typhoid EVERYWHERE
I understand the incidence is 1 in 3 now for cancer now.YOU COULD BE NEXT
TO SUFFER FROM CHEMO AND DIE A HORRIBLE PAINFUL DEATH
and be pumped full of toxic drugs which dont work
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
CHECK IT YOURSELF.CHECK IT YOURSELF
Last year 126050 people died fom cancer in the u.k.
245040 DIED FROM PRESCRIPTION DRUGS FROM DOCTORS
and HOSPITALS IN THE USA last year AMA report says.
245040 last year killed by PHARMACEUTICAL companies.
how many ? HOW MANY SEPTEMBER 11 s is that ?
3500 people killed by terrorists last year.
50000 hours of publicty by CBS AND NBC AND CNN
24 HOURS A DAY
245040 killed by PHARMACEUTICAL companies last year
from drug side effects.you understand ?
no mention at all by the MAJOR NEWS MEDIA. WHY .WHY ?
WHY ??? I ASK YOU ?
this is eqivalent to 25 planes crashing into 25 world trade centres.
do you understand these figures ??? DO YOU ???
how much publicity was there on CNN NBC CBS about this ??????
none NONE . do you UNDERSTAND ?
this is because these media networks get BILLIONS in advertising revenue
to plug their worthless prescription drug remedies.
YOU COULD BE NEXT to die from side effects from these toxic dangerous drugs
last night i heard the playwright Harold Pinter had throat cancer
George Harrisons £140 million fortune did not save him as
the doctors did not tell him and used the most advanced chemotherapy instead
THEY used the MOST ADVANCED CHEMO.
THE MOST ADVANCED CHEMO ON THE BEATLE GEORGE HARRISON
THE MOST ADVANCED CHEMO THERAPY
NEXT MORNING GEORGE HARRISON WAS DEAD DEAD
DEAD.DO YOU UNDERSTAND? DEAD
do you understand
AND A BILL FOR $1,879 000
WAS SENT TO HIS WIDOW.DO YOU UNDERSTAND???
DRUG COMPANY SAYING: "A PATIENT CURED IS A PATIENT LOST"
A CURED PATIENT MAKES NO MONEY FOR THE DRUG CARTELS
DO YOU UNDERSTAND this ?
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
The method can also be applied to cancer causing viruses.
Remember the passing of a small electrical current of between 50 to 100 microamperes disables the viruses
and the very low cost of such a method has resulted in its suppression .
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
as the drug companies would lose billions as their expensive drugs are sidestepped.
the device can be made easily by using four 9 volts batteries in series and a variable resistor to
adjust the current plus wet cloth covered 1 cm square electrodes taped to each of the pulse points on each wrist.
Or alternatively a variable 25 to 50 volt voltage source can be used.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND? you YOU can build the devices in your house OK
how ? HOW ? HOW ? YOU ASK ? HERE'S HOW
full FREE instructions on HOW to BUILD at:-
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
you can find more detailed information if you type BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION in your web browser.
I AM NOT SELLING YOU ANYTHING.DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
A number of private individuals have tried and found it works for many conditions.
including cancer aids and cfs and others.DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
its impossible to bring it to widespread use as drug
company advisers have the ear of
government officials.DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
you want proof ? PROOF ? HERE is the PROOF.read and weep.
The ORIGINAL SCIENCE PAPER IS AT :-
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
HOW TO MAKE THE DEVICES FULL FREE INSTRUCTIONS AT:-
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
more DETAILED general treatment protocol information can be found if you type in web browser
"BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION"
do you UNDERSTAND what i am saying ?
SPREAD THE NEWS.SSSSPPPRRREEAAADDDD THE NNEEEWSSSS!!!!
pharmaceutical companies are SUPPRESSING
broad spectrum use BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION would make destroy their
vast 1200 billion a year profits and governments get a CUT of that in taxes.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS ? YOU PEOPLE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
the devices can be very cheaply made.about 20 dollars maximum and only use electricity.
the research paper is detailed below and is available on the internet at:-
THE RESEARCH WAS DONE AT ALBERT EINSTEIN COLLEGE OF MEDICINE IN NEW YORK
AND HAS BEEN SUPPRESSED BY THE DRUG CARTEL
THE ORIGINAL SUPPRESSED SCIENCE RESEARCH PAPER IS AT:-
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
CHECK IT YOURSELF
AND SAVE THE INFO BEFORE THEY SUPPRESS IT.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
spread sprreeadd the NEWS OK? tell people in the streets
sppprrreead spread the word sprreadd thhheee WORD !!!!!!!!!!!!!
TELL PEOPLE IN THE BUSES
SHOUT it from the ROOFTOPS .shout it from the ROOFTOPS
TELL PASSERSBY.stop people in the STREET TELL THEM
TELL THEM ABOUT THIS SUPPRESSION
ask your congressman why BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION HAS BEEN SUPPRESSED
demand from your CONGRESSMAN WHY ITS BEEN SUPPRESSED
demand an EXPLANATION
demand from your media EDITORS why they why been suppressing this
vital information.
IS IT BECAUSE THEY GET BILLIONS IN ADVERTISING DOLLERS
FROM DRUG COMPANIES EH?
stop stop STOP this CORRUPTION
stop this SUPPRESSION
power to the PEOPLE
POWER TO THE PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yours sincerely.
dr nurse in sexy stockings
u understand
eh?
what
you want me to repeat it again??
did you not understand it?
ok buts really tiring for me
i did win typist of the year award though
i should bill u for this
my time
is valuable
i am trying to save
your sorry skins eh?
what
what u mean
u beggin me
ok
here goes

ok here goes.
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
SUMMARY
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
Appendix E Paper by W. Lyman, et a1. Reporting Inactivation of AIDS Virus by Electric Current
Keywords: Keywords: W. Lyman, et l, AIDS, Electric Current, lymphoblastoid cell lines (H9 and CEM-SS), HIV-1, AIDS, tritiated thymidine (3H-TdR), HBWSS, Syncytium-formation assay, varicella, The RF Strain, (SDH), H+(ATP).
BIOCOMPATIBLE ELECTRIC CURRENT ATTENUATES HIV-I INFECTIVITY
William D. Lyman, Irwin R.Merkatz
William C. Hatch and Steven C. Kaali
Departments of Pathology,
and Obstetrics & Gynecology
Albert Einstein. College of Medicine,
1300 Morris Park Ave., Bronx, N.Y.10461
Running title: Electricity reduces HIV-1 infectivity
Correspondence: Dr, Wm.. D. Lyman
Department of Pathology
Albert Einstein College of Medicine
1300 Morris Park Avenue
The Bronx, NY 10461
(212) 430-217
SUMMARY
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
Appendix E Paper by W. Lyman, et a1. Reporting Inactivation of AIDS Virus by Electric Current
Keywords: Keywords: W. Lyman, et l, AIDS, Electric Current, lymphoblastoid cell lines (H9 and CEM-SS), HIV-1, AIDS, tritiated thymidine (3H-TdR), HBWSS, Syncytium-formation assay, varicella, The RF Strain, (SDH), H+(ATP).
BIOCOMPATIBLE ELECTRIC CURRENT ATTENUATES HIV-I INFECTIVITY
William D. Lyman, Irwin R.Merkatz
William C. Hatch and Steven C. Kaali
Departments of Pathology,
and Obstetrics & Gynecology
Albert Einstein. College of Medicine,
1300 Morris Park Ave., Bronx, N.Y.10461
Running title: Electricity reduces HIV-1 infectivity
Correspondence: Dr, Wm.. D. Lyman
Department of Pathology
Albert Einstein College of Medicine
1300 Morris Park Avenue
The Bronx, NY 10461
(212) 430-217
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
SUMMARY
In this report, we present the results of double-blinded studies on the use of
direct electric current to alter the infectivity o£ HIV-1 for susceptible cells in vitro.
Two lymphoblastoid cell lines (H9 and CEM-SS) were exposed to aliquots of
the RT strain of HIV-1 treated with direct current. Results of these studies show
that virus treated with currents from 50 to 100 microamperes (ìA) has a significantly
reduced infectivity for susceptible cells.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
These experimental currents were equal to 3.85 and 7.7microamps /mm2 current densities respectively.
The reduction of infectivity was dependent upon,
the total electric charge (ìA x min) passing through the chamber to which the virus was exposed.
Viral infectivity was determined by two independent measures:
a syncytium-formation assay which can be used to quantify the production
of infectious particles; and. a reverse transcriptase assay which is an index of
viral protein production. Additional experiments demonstrated that the currents
employed were biocompatible. Uninfected H9 cells were exposed to the same conditions
used for the viral aliquots.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ??
DO YOU ?
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
There was no significant change in the percentage of viable uninfected cells
exposed to any of the currents tested. Therefore, because biocompatible direct electric
current attenuates the infectivity of cell-free virus, this treatment may allow development
of new strategies to prevent transmission of HIV-1 through either treating the general
blood supply or developing alternative barrier contraceptive devices. Additionally,
biocompatible electric. current may be applicable for the direct treatment of AIDS patients
by utilizing either extracorporeal systems or self contained indwelling electrodes.
Biocompatibility of the electric currents/time:
PROOF ? YOUY WANT PROOF ? HERE IS THE PROOF:-
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW ?
The results of a viability analysis using trypan blue exclusion criteria applied to uninfected cells
exposed to the different currents and times used far these studies are shown in Table 4.
The viability of H9 cells, after exposure to 100ìA fur either 3 or b minutes, did not show a
significant decrease when compared to the 0 Current control. After maximum treatment
at 100ìA for 6 minutes, cell viability was 93%. Interestingly, in other preliminary experiments
in which HIV-infected H9 cells were used, the results show that at 100 ìA there may have been
a significant decrease in the number of viable cells.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS ?
That is, while an insta ntaneous
pulse of 100 microamps did not affect the viability of infected cells, at 3 and 6 minutes of
exposure to 100 microamps, a decrease in viability was noted. This decrease was
time dependent in that exposure to 100 microamps Afar 3 min utes resulted in a
viability of 83% while 100 microamps for 6 minutes resulted in a viability of 80%.
DO YOU UNDERSTAN ? DO YOU ?
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
In summary, the data presented here indicate that biocompatible direct electric current
significantly reduces the infectivity of HIV-1. Continuing investigations are exploring the
mechanisms through which this effect is mediated. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
The in itial focus of these experiments is centered on the potential role which ionic and molecular species generated by
electrolysis may have on the virus. However, the complete mechanism by which direct
electric current attenuates HIV-1 infectivity is undoubtedly far re complex than simple
electrolysis. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS ?
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
Nonetheless. and independent of a complete understanding of all of the mechanisms
involved in the attenuation of HIV-1 infectivity, the present observations
may serve as an initiaI step for the development of new strategies to treat infection
or prevent transmission of HIV-1 through either treat ing the general blood supply
or developing alternative barrier contraceptive devices.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS ?
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
It may also be feasible to treat AIDS patients with direct electric current using either extracorporeal systems
or self contained indwelling electrodes. Lastly, because viral infectivity is being
attenuated, electric current may render treated HIV-1 suitable for vaccine development.
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW ?
WELL DO YOU ??
yours sincerely
dr sexy stockings
you did not understand ?
well you want me to repeat it ?
again ?
i am not made of steel ok
i am a human being with muscles
you are begging me to
ok but i my time is woth money
ok
here goes ok
here goes then



WHAT TO DO IF YOU CONTRACT ANTIBIOTIC RESISTANT MRSA.

With MRSA infections increasing rapidly in and out of hospitals the below information will save your life and limb if followed carefully after other options like pharamaceutical drugs have failed you.

You should always consult a registered health practitioner and use the below information as a last resort although using it earlier may help you to avoid complications as the treatment is not harmful if followed as below.

It is non-patentable , non-drug based and therefore not profitable for established pharmaceutical companies.

Your doctor will dismiss it automatically but you should do your own research using a search engine like google.


If you are infected with antibiotic resistant MRSA and wish to save your limb and life then the following set of instructions will save your life.I suggest you save this information and pass it around.

If a limb has become infected with MRSA and your doctor suggests amputation and if you dont want it amputated then wash the effected limp in warm water and scrub gently away any dead surface skin cells.

While the limb is still wet put it in a thick plastic bag and seal it in with sellotape around the edges so thats its airtight.

Next get a the hose from an Ozone generator and make a small hole in the bag and seal it with sellotape to make it airtight.

Then switch on the ozone generator and leave it on for from 1 to 4 hours depending on severity of infection.

You can repeat the treatment over a few days for very acute cases.

The ozone gas will kill any MRSA on the skin and transdermal zxone will go through the skin and kill any MRSA inside the limb.

Its a good idea to open the windows while you are ozonating the limp as ozone is not good for the lungs.


If the infection is not in a limb which can be easily wrapped in a plastic bag then do the up to the neck ozone bagging again using sellotape to seal the bag at the neck so its airtight.Use a large thick binliner and stand in it while a friend/relation seals you up.Again open the windows.

But have a warm bath prior to ozone bagging and again to speed things up a gentle scrubbing to remove dead skin before bagging.

You will find this saves your limb and life.

Ozone generators can be purchased from google and can cost from £160 upwards and last a very long time.

The generator costing around £160 or $200 will be more then adequate as long as the ozone output is around 200 to 300 mg/hour.

Drinking ozonated cold water will increase the elimination of the MRSA infection and associated toxins even more quickly.

I suggest you all look up medical ozone in google or transdermal ozone or ozone bagging or variations thereof.

This will give you additional research materiels

I already have an ozone generator and routinely drink ozonated water to keep healthy.The water gives you a slightly heady feeling as if you had too much oxygen for a few seconds after you drink it.

The point of this information is to enable you to save your own life and limb after other options have failed you.

You should save this information as a text file and spread it around.





The procedure works.I tried it on a cut on my arm after buying these generators.the cut would not heal for many months.it was like it was rotting away.i was told it may have to be amputated.
i was terrified.i came across this article as and did it as a last resort.i am so glad and happy that the mrsa is gone.when i told the doctors they said it was spontaneous remission and i had wasted my money.
the bastards seem so close minded and i really feel sorry for all the other people who will either die or get amputations cos they listened only to their doctors and failed to try other methods.



Many muslims want to creat a muslim state under sharia law free from infidel pollution but their evil western secular governments wont allow it.

Thus it is suggested and strongly urged to all muslims to creat their own muslim state free from corruption and evil by buying three unpopulated islands in south east asia or the pacific.

We strongly urge a fund be created called Muslim State Fund to enable this to happen without delay.

Plenty of these islands exist completely unpopulated by people in South East Asia and the Pacific Ocean.

These 3 islands would serve separate functions and be ruled by a Mullah Absolute who will be in touch with Gods Will.

Island 1 would be populated by men only and only women would populate Island 2.

This would be to stop the corrosive and corrupting influence of women from interrupting their daily devotional duties.

Island 3 would be used to to procreate to create offspring.


Everyday women in burkhas would row over from Island 2 ,
3 miles away and give food to the men on Island 1 , 3 times a day.

The women would also cook and clean while the men would be blindfolded on Island 1.Then the women would row back to their own Island 1 and be ready for the next day.

Mullah Absolute would rule all 3 Islands including Island 2.

Mullah Absolute's word would be law and his decrees without appeal.

His power would be to to ensure total devotion to Allah 24/7.

No electricity tv,phones,books would be allowed as these are unislamic and heathen devices and corrupting.No music or dancing wouldbe allowed as this is against Islam.

Anyone disobeying "Mullah Absolute in touch with Gods Will"
would be beheaded instantly.

No machines would be allowed.No planes, no cars.,no technology

They would live as the Great Muhammed lived in medievel times.
They would plant seeds and plough the soil and harvest it all by hand.

All machines would be outlawed.

A 100 mile no fly exclusion zone would be created
to stop evil influences and distractions from the Islamic state peoples devotions.

Any one transgressing this zone would be shot down and beheaded.

The only book would be the Koran in Arabic.

The residents would live in natural caves and be forbiden to question Mullah Absolutes word on pain of instant beheading.

Just imagine this would be just like paradise on Earth for all true Muslims.

I urge everyone to start a fund immediately to create this Muslim State with Sharia Law Absolute.

Just imagine how all true muslims would flock to this awesome palace of true Islam.




Doesn't Islamic scholarship have issues like violence, suicide bombing of innocents, poverty, injustice that they are preoccupied about short or long clothes of a girl who brings athletic credit and glory to India and the Muslims."


This is MY theory as to why it would work as claimed by the inventor.

MY theory is that because a spark occurs in a very small VOLUME OF SPACE ONLY A VERY AMOUNT OF AIR/FUEL MIXTURE CAN BE IN CONTACT WITH THIS VERY SMALL VOLUME OF SPARKING SPACE PER SPARK.

look at any spark generator and you will see the spark occurs in a very very SMALL VOLUME OF SPACE.only a certain small number of air/fuel molecules will be effected per spark.Do you see what i mean so far?



Now if you spread this spark out using these hemispherical domes the"spark" is spread out over a much larger volume.
In fact its no longer a spark but a high voltage which creates a plasma from the air fuel mixture around it and over a larger volume of space.

Using a plasma over a larger volume may help better mixing and combustion and increase efficiency.

heard of plasma welding?



once again by spreading this "spark" out over a larger volume of space as described in the form of a plasma the amount of air/fuel mixture in contact with this plasma INCREASES BY MANY MANY TIMES helps to increase burn EFFICIENCY.

I suggest we test the plugs on a car as i suggested above in above post instead of pointless argueing on the internet.

You make scientific progress by experiment and observation.

Let us not be Arabs.


" MOST MUSLIMS LEARN ISLAM PARROTT FASHION WITH ENDLESS REPETITION AND RECITATION IN ARABIC".

Many people are shocked when they become aware that non arabic speaking muslims learn Islam in ARABIC.

Thats right folks in ARABIC.


Most Muslims dont speak arabic.

They are being taught Islam parrott fashion in Arabic.They are reciting Islam without understanding it.

Thus they have no idea what they are spouting and is shameful.

I feel very sorry for the poor kids who are reciting it moving back and forth and praying without understanding Islam cos its in ARABIC!

Its just like British or American Christions spouting christianity in Hebrew which they dont speak.

Absolutely no idea what are they are saying.

no comprehension what so ever.

This is totally disgraceful.

Islam should only be taught in translation form.

The teaching of Islam in ARABIC should be banned in non-arabic speaking countries as then it is subverted by extremists and thus islam is being perverted by these exremists to pursue political agendas.


Islam is then translated by "self appointed religious leaders" who have an axe to grind or want to be in power thus distorting Islam.They clearly tell lies about Islam and its meaning to get power over their students in countries with repressive regimes.

The poor people then become enslaved and brain washed by these zeolots to indulge in political stupidity and engage in criminal acts including murder in the name of Islam.

What do you people think?

Am I right or am I right?

The teaching of Islam in ARABIC in non-arabic speaking countries should be banned as the students have no idea of the meaning of the words.



The slent majority agree with me but are afraid to say so because of peer group pressure.BUT THEY ARE THINKING IT.

Your assertion THEY HAD NO DRY STUFF TO BURN IS TOTAL RUBBISH.

FIRST YOU CLAIM EVERYTHING WAS WET.
THEN YOU CLAIN EVERYTHING WAS HOT.

this means that wet things when hot DRY UP.<-----RETAIN THIS INFO.

ALSO WOOD WHEN WET WILL DRY WHEN HOT.
YOU JUST SET FIRE TO IT.

THE STREETS WERE AWASH WITH DEBRIS AND WAITING TO BE SET ON FIRE.

plenty of utensils existed in every house.IN EVERY BUILDING.

every building had water tanks full of NICE CLEAN WATER!

EVEN IF YOU HAD NO CLEAN WATER YOU MAKE THE CLEAN WATER.

MR BUMNER SAID YOU CANT STRAIN WATER.

YOU CAN USE ANY CLOTH OR A SHIRT OR A JACKET TO STRAIN WATER.

PLENTY OF THESE ITEMS EXISTED JUST LYING ABOUT IN THE STREETS SCATTERED ALL OVER.


THE MAIN PROBLEM WAS THAT THEY JUST COULD NOT EVEN DO SIMPLE BASIC THINGS.

A CLEAR FAILURE TO ACT.

IF IT HAD BEEN ME.I WOULD JUST HAVE BARRICADED MYSELF IN TO A TALL BUILDING AND JUST WAITED AND READ BOOKS AND SLEPT WELL.KEEPING A TASER AND A GUN WITH ME TO SHOOT ANYONE WHO ENTERED MY SELF MADE ABODE.









What to Do About SARS and Rampant Infections

My friends in Asia asked me what they can do about SARS, and here's the advice I gave them.

The only reason I'm qualified to write about this is because I have a degree in nutrition, know Chinese medicine and western herbs, and because I have been researching and writing a book called Antibiotic (and Antiviral) Alternatives for Doctors and Their Patients.

When I was in nutrition school several years ago and told my classmates I wanted to write this book as a national public service even though I didn't expect it to make money. I wanted to do it anyway because I said that antibiotics would soon lose most of their effectiveness and therefore to have this book was a national security issue. Naturally they thought I was crazy, but if you want to do Bodhisattva deeds, you must do what needs to be done despite whether you'll make money or lose money or be scorned for your efforts.

Anyway, here's what I wrote my friends in Asia: if you get SARS, run (don't walk) to the hospital without delay. Don't try to do anything on your own. You might add adjunct therapies to what they'll give you in the hospital, but put your hands in the best medical treatment possible because this is life threatening. Following the lead of the Canadian Health ministry, you should insist that they give you intravenous ribavirin as the mainstay therapy, osteltamivir (Tamiflu) for flu, corticosteroids because of the inflammation, and broad spectrum antibiotics to counter the bacterial infections commonly seen with viral pneumonia.

But what about prevention?



First, the key to SARS is prevention rather than cure, and to prevent catching SARS you want to bolster your immune system as much as possible. Naturally you want to do all the things they're telling you in the news media, but you also want to improve your body's biological terrain to make it more likely that SARS doesn't catch hold if you are exposed. In other words, bolster your immune system.

Therefore, the first thing you should do is cut down on the consumption of sugar and sweet tasting foods (which contain sugar) because sugar depresses your immune system. It's common for some people to catch a cold after they eat something as small as a sugar-laden chocolate bar, so beware. And remember that milk and fruit juice are primarily sugar! If you are sick, stay away from orange juice because it's all sugar water.

As to whether you should go on a no-grain or low grain diet, that's a secondary consideration (because grains quickly turn into sugar into the body due to their high glycemic index). Nevertheless, if you do go on a no/low grain diet (meaning no wheat, flour, rice, bagels, bread, pastry, etc.) for awhile, the great benefit is that you're likely to lose weight.

The key to most weight loss programs is no sugar and no/low grains. People don't realize that "low carb" diets are focused around these two features. Sugar absolutely kills your immune system for 4-5 hours (it makes the white blood cells sluggish) so avoid it and things that turn into sugar inside the body.



PREVENTION SUPPLEMENTS

Okay, time for supplements to bolster the immunity. People are probably popping vitamin C but to tell you the truth, that rarely even prevents colds. You need to take vitamin A with it at the same time, and even then you have to do so in massive doses AND (doctors never tell you this "and" part) you have to change your diet at the same time to decrease your consumption of sugars.

Frankly, I wouldn't rely on vitamin A and C to do anything in terms of major protection. However, if I did catch SARS I'd demand intravenous vitamin C. And by the way, taking increased amounts of vitamin A and C for about a week before and after a vaccination injection, especially for infants, is something I'm told by my colleagues minimizes the chances of adverse reactions.

Now another big thing to do to avoid catching SARS is to avoid drafts and air conditioning because that's an easy way to catch colds and from there, worse things.

With this aside, I do have suggestions for two supplements that can help bolster your immune system which will help with prevention, and the first one is great. Every flu season I tell people to take it:

1) Hyperimmunized Egg Powder - 1 can will last a month at 1 scoop/day (more if you are already immune compromised with arthritis, etc.). Frankly, hyperimmunized egg powder is the best overall systemic immune booster I know of. It's a miracle wonder … as powerful as CoQ10 for congestive heart failure, lipoic acid for diabetic neuropathy, and glutamine for healing the stomach and intestines (leaky gut).

2) Immune boosting mushrooms - Mushrooms are another broad spectrum immune booster … if you get the right ones. In my personal opinion, the only mushrooms to buy … and remember I'm an expert in this field because I know some of the big growers/producers ... are from JHS Naturals in the USA. International customers can call 541-344-1396 to order.

JHS has a general purpose immune building extract called Immune Builder made from a water extraction process that doesn't destroy the glycoproteins inside the mushroom cells when they break apart the woody cellulose of the mushroom. Most everyone else out there (other manufacturers) just grinds up the mushrooms into pulp and puts it into capsules, yet your body simply cannot digest the mushroom cell wall since we don't have the enzymes that digest cellulose.

JHS is the only manufacturer that breaks open the cells to get the immune stimulating proteins inside. As to everyone else, well you're paying a pretty penny for inactive filler you cannot digest. If someone had cancer and needed mushrooms, this is the firm I'd buy them from. In fact, it's the one I send people to all the time.

Which bottle to buy? I'd buy 1 bottle of their "Immune builder". Their Reishi extract helps with allergies and cholesterol-lowering while Coriolus is used for cancer, but the Immune Builder contains 5 different mushrooms known for their immune enhancing properties.

When in doubt, always buy a mixed product with several ingredients like this one. This stuff is expensive, so 1 bottle is probably enough, especially as it takes time for mushrooms to kick in - it usually takes 2 weeks to see the WBC counts go up. beta-glucan is another popular favorite out there, but you're going to get everything in Immune Builder. Immune26, as mentioned earlier, does its magic almost instantly so it's the first choice product since the results are immediate.



ADJUNCT THERAPY

Now we come to the topic of fighting SARS if you get it.

What to do if you catch SARS? Rush to the hospital, of course.

However, there are three things that in my opinion will help either stun/kill/delay the virus, or lower your load of other bacterial and viral antagonists so that your immune system can put all its focus on SARS.

1) The first item is, of all things, colloidal silver … but only the .66 nanometer (2 atoms wide) colloidal silver made by Purest Colloids in New Jersey (609-267-6284). So I should say, "Purest Colloids Colloidal Silver." Check them out at www.Purestcolloids.com . If you buy any other brand of colloidal silver I guarantee you've wasted your money (unless you are buying a rebottler).

Every other manufacturer out there makes silver colloid particles that are 100-1000 atoms wide, while these are so small that they slip right into cells where they interfere with the oxygenation mechanism of bacteria and viruses to knock them out. It really does work … even Dr. William Douglass (the skeptic) and Dr. Jonathan Wright believe so, too.

Manufacturers sometimes coat catheters with silver to cut down on infections, and hospitals have water filtration systems made with silver in order to kill pathogenic offenders. Silver filtration systems are used in submarines and they were used in the Russian space station as well. Silver proteins were the natural antibiotic of choice before modern antibiotics came into the picture, and so on and so on the evidence goes. Don't let anyone say colloidal silver doesn't work … it just depends on the quality of the material and the amount.

You know I'm almost completed my book on Antibiotic and Antiviral Alternatives for Doctors and their Patients, so because of that work I'm one of only a handful of people who have been privileged to see the Purest Colloids manufacturing facility and this company's production technique is fantastic. It's the most advanced in the world, and the colloidal products are not made from the old silver wire in water electrical process.

But let's skip all that.

All I can say is that this stuff works … he's even got about 400 hepatitis C patients surviving just because of his colloidal silver. You'd need to take several bottles worth if you got SARS and they would sure work on killing all sorts of nasties in the body. If someone were to atomize it (with an asthma nebulizer) and inhale it, it would go directly to the lungs and fight infections as silver is effective against 99.5% of all known pathogens.

2) Blood electrification is another biggie. I'd buy one of those blood electrifiers called a "Gem" from Tools for Wellness (if they still carry them 800-456-9887) and run it over my wrists for about 1-2 hours a day.

Without a doubt, the 2-inch thick stack of patents on my desk, and interviews with other researchers I've done, proves that passing electricity through the blood stream, simply by strapping electrodes on the skin, will inactivate the replication cycle of viruses and bacteria. Since strapping an electric charge flow on the wrists has the current going right through the lungs, this is a great adjunct therapy but you probably cannot buy these units anymore since people cannot advertise them for the usage I've just mentioned. Nevertheless, even people like famous publisher Wayne Green swear it works.

I've used this method before and had friends use it … believe it or not, it sometimes lead to weight loss again probably through the mechanism of cleaning up pathogens so that your body doesn't have to keep too much water weight one as a dilution mechanism. I cannot say that this is worth the investment but if I got SARS I'd have my unit on immediately, no doubt about it.

It's an interesting thing to try for detox though you'd want to take mushrooms at the same time since the electricity doesn't kill the viruses and pathogens, but only shocks them into inactivity; mushrooms (beta-glucan) will rev-up your immune system so that it's primed to clean them up once they are temporarily disabled.

3) Hydrogen peroxide - I don't know if hydrogen peroxide therapy could be helpful with SARS. I've used it at three times on myself to get rid of bronchitis when antibiotics failed, and in each instance it stopped a long running infection in 3-4 days. A Ph.D. nutritionist taught me how to use it after she had contracted a case of bronchitis so bad that she was told she would die. She couldn't sleep because of all the coughing and had developed spots on her lungs (which you could see in an X-ray). The doctors told her that she better write her will and get her house in order because they could do nothing else for her.

For some reason she went to a conference that weekend and someone told her about hydrogen peroxide therapy -- where you pour a bit of food grade H2O2 into some water and slowly sip it. She did and saved her life where doctors could not--they don't like this sort of cure, by the way. The internet has lots of information on how to use hydrogen peroxide in this way, and you're advised to read up on it as H2O2 is a poison. Then again, so is chemotherapy. Oral use of H2O2 usually involves mixing one teaspoon of the 6-7% food grade variety in a glass of distilled water and then drinking it every 4 hours on an empty stomach.

What you need to know is that granulocytes, which are the cells in our bodies which fight infection, produce hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) as a first line of defense against every type of invading organisms -- parasites, viruses, bacteria and yeast. The granulocytes shoot out H2O2 molecules like little bullets to kill these pathogens. Whether or not it will work with SARS, or just lower your entire pathogenic load so that your immune defenses can concentrate on SARS, is unknown to me, but I thought I'd mention this avenue. I'd certainly use it.

And by the way, you can also heat 1/4 cup of over the counter 3% hydrogen peroxide, pour over a white wool or cotton clothe and place it on your chest area. If you leave it there for 20 minutes, and repeat the treatment every 8-12 hours, the H2O2 will be absorbed into your blood stream and lungs directly where it will oxidize viruses on contact and increase oxygen levels in your blood.

A caution, however: If you use H2O2 for a number of days, it will drain catalase reserves in your body. To replenish them, you should drink raw potato juice which is a rich source of catalase. To make it, you simply cut up a raw potato and place it in a blender with a cup of water. Then you blend, strain and drink the juice about one hour after each hydrogen peroxide treatment.

4) Last recommendation - olive leaf extract, which is a great immune builder Here's the problem though. While olive leaf extract is a great immune booster and helps kill viruses, I really haven't done the research to be able to tell you which brand is best. That's a big problem because you could be buying slop.

All these other products I know about, I have researched extensively and used … I've talked to experts all across the US even before the SARS wave since I was writing my book knowing this day would come when the antibiotics and antivirals would be worthless. However, I haven't yet found out which olive leaf extract is best. I haven't finished that chapter of the book yet.

Most olive leafs on the market I would not trust, but supposedly a good one is Olivirex (Bio-Botanical Research 800-775-4140) capsules together with Kyolic garlic liquid (1 teaspoon 4X). But don't hold me to this one.

Many AIDS people who catch pneumonia swear by an herbal supplement called SEES-2000, which has a high sulfur content, perhaps because of the herb Lomatiuim Dissectum it contains. The manufacturer can be reached at 866-688-6757. The AIDS immunologist researcher Mark Konlee reports that one capsule every 4 hours is recommended for 3-5 days until pneumonia is gone.


That's about all I can do for you now. Hope it helps. In summary, remember:

1) a low sugar and low grain diet (just think of the weight loss after two weeks and you'll thank me)
2) Immune26 - absolutely!! Bolster your immune system now using this
3) JHS mushrooms
4) Colloidal silver - yes, buy some now and keep it in the house for emergencies
5) Blood electrification - only if you catch it, but will the hospital let you use it? If not, skip it
6) Hydrogen peroxide
7) Olive leaf extract, vitamin C and vitamin A

Oh yes ... one more thing.

Forget the talk about the effectiveness of a future SARS vaccine. I'm not even going to address whether or not they can make one (because they cannot clearly identify all the related lethal pathogens) or whether or not vaccines work in general . All I wish to point out is that the vaccine we already have for pneumonia doesn't work, so why would anything they develop for SARS work when it's far past the stage of antibiotic and antiviral resistance? Check on the following information sources for details:

"Effectiveness of Pneumococcal Polysaccharide Vaccine in Older Adults" New England Journal of Medicine, 2003 May 1;348 (18):1747-55, ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"Pneumonia Vaccine Ineffective for Elderly" Dr. Joseph Mercola, 5/17/03, mercola.com
"Pneumococcal Polysaccharide Revaccination: Immunoglobulin g Seroconversion, Persistence, and Safety in Frail, Chronically Ill Older Subjects" Journal of the American Geriatric Society, 2003 Feb;51(2):240-5, ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
"Pneumonia Vaccine Not as Effective as Thought" Dr. Joseph Mercola, 2/26/03, mercola.com

These sources reveal that pneumonia kills about 60,000 Americans per year, most over age 65. A vaccine for pneumonia was introduced in the 1980s and a booster shot was recommended every five years. However, the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society has published a study showing that the booster shots don't provide complete protection. Last month a study of more than 47,000 people over age 65 -- the largest pneumonia study ever done -- showed that the pneumonia vaccination simply does not work. So if this one doesn't work for ordinary pneumonia, don't expect them to be able to create something for SARS.

In short, SARS and even worse diseases will start appearing in the future as we become more immuno-compromised becuse of our diet and environment, so the big thing to do is change your diet to avoid sugars and grains, get on Immune26 during flu season, and supplement oneself not necessarily on mushrooms and immune enhancers, but with vitamins and minerals for which you might be deficient.That will change your biological terrain and make it that much harder to get sick in the first place.

That's the best advice I can give anyone, but if you want more I suggest you pick up Mark Konlee's latest book, Immune Restoration Handbook, which has been developed over the years from dealing with thousands of patients with AIDS and HIV+, the worst immune compromised people we know of. The Immune Restoration Handbook can be ordered through www.keephope.net .







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you dogs u ungrateful monkeys
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but cos you are lazy and never do any work
you are alll jealous of usa usa the gratest .......u bastard
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with front lawns we trim those front lawns .......we have barbecues
in our green gardens and our kids play on the nice trimmed lawns we have our carsparked in the road and in the driveway
we have nice sunny wather we sit in the sun
we have paradise in america we have super buildings
wehave wheat fields we have mountains of food cos we work work
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blacks and nifggers are stupid
lazy and stupid they smoke weed all day
and sit around all day they are thieves and an a black eyesore
we are hard working marvel at us
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marvel how we turned america from zero to super state in 300 years
while u bastards are living in mudhuts
and are poor and dirty and stupid and lazy
american culture rules everywhere american culture is taking over
cos its the best culture cos people like it love american culture.
the right culture the most advanced culture its even taking over the scum arabs
soon we will have mcdonals in saudia arabia and iran and in mecca
and in all the holy place
soon we will have miniskirted american girls in saudia arabia
and seen we will have jessica simpson wearing tight hotpants and kicking arab ass in iran and sadia arabia ....and all the other towelheads
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we have foxnes cbs news nbc we have 1200 newspapers
6000 magazines we have feeedom of information
we americans invented internet and p2p
we are clever and smart and very astute and intelligunt
and we are very edcated and you are all very very bacwards and very stupid
u hate us cos u al want to be born americans
but you will never be americans
you all secretly love american culture and and love america
u only dis america cos you are scared and of peer group pressure u hypocrits
of being inferior and cos you are not very good at working
u sleep all day u r very envious of usa fox news u nigger
u bastard we are free we free people we are free
and rich u are poor and envious we free irak from saddam mulin tyranny
at last irakis can enjoy free speech and mcdonalds
saddom iilled 1.2 million from repression and war u ignorant bastard
u never saw on tv so u ignore that fact u shithead



Too hot to handle

In April 1993, the defence magazine Jane's International Defence Review announced the discovery by a British amateur inventor, Maurice Ward, of a thin plastic coating able to withstand temperatures of 2,700 degrees Centigrade

The reason why it was a defence magazine who first published news of This revolutionary invention is that the coating is so resistant to heat that it can make tanks, ships and aircraft impervious to the effects of nuclear weapons at quite close range -- and hence is of great interest to the military mind.

A little later that year the whole nation had an opportunity to see for themselves the effectiveness of Maurice Ward's new paint on BBC Television when it was featured on "Tomorrow's World". Presenter Michael Rodd showed viewers an ordinary chicken's egg that had been painted with the new coating. The paint was so thin it was not visible. Rodd then dramatically donned welder's visor and gauntlets, lit up an oxyacetylene torch, and played the flame directly onto the egg for several minutes.

When he removed the flame, and cracked the egg on the table top, viewers were able to see that the coating was so heat resistant that the egg was still raw and had not even begun to cook.

This invention, a simple paint that can render anything impervious to very high temperatures, has been the holy grail of chemical research for more than fifty years. Teams of scientists in the world's greatest industrial and defence laboratories have poured billions of pounds and hundreds of man-years into the search for such a substance -- a quest which made Ward's discovery even more extraordinary.

Ward's invention is remarkable enough, but the story of how he came to make it, and the resistance he encountered in getting anyone to believe him, is even more remarkable.

Maurice Ward comes from Blackburn and has no professional scientific background. The closest he has come to the chemical industry was when, as a young man, he drove a fork lift truck in the warehouse of ICI. For the past two decades, he has earned a living as a ladies hairdresser.

Part of his income was derived from selling his customers hair preparations such as shampoo, conditioner and hairspray. To maximise his income he rented a small workshop, bought standard chemicals and mixed and bottled his own brand hair products.

In the best traditions of Ealing Comedy, it was when playing around mixing up chemicals in his 'skunk works' that Ward stumbled on the formula that had eluded the finest minds in chemical research.

Realising at once the value of his invention, Ward wrote to Britain's major chemical companies, offering to demonstrate his material to them. Every one sent him the standard brush-off letter they send to cranks and crackpots. After the "Tomorrow's World" demonstration, Ward stopped getting the brush-off and starting getting offers instead.

One consequence of his contacts with chemical companies was that the head of research of ICI's paint laboratory left the firm and went into partnership with Ward to exploit the discovery commercially.

One other interesting consequence is that the large corporations who had rejected his initial approaches in such a knee-jerk fashion, conducted internal inquests to find out what had gone wrong, both with their own research and with their dealings with the outside world.

On the face of it, it was perfectly understandable that Ward's claims should be ignored since he was merely an amateur, with no scientific training and no track record in research.

ICI's own paints laboratory held an internal audit and what they found puts this claim in an entirely different light. For the audit showed that the most scientifically qualified of its research chemists had contributed to the least number of patents, and the fewer scientific qualifications the staff possessed, the greater the number of patents they had contributed to. In the most striking case of all, the person who had contributed to most ICI's patents had no scientific qualifications at all.

It seems that Maurice Ward's greatest strength as a researcher was that he had not been taught how to think.

In the light of examples such as this, the phrase 'Alternative Science' seems less a contradiction in terms and more a harbinger of something that professional science is likely to see more and more of in future.



[quote][b]Posted by KOSMOS:[/b]
[quote][b]Posted by ESECO:[/b]
With the Space Shuttle being a dead duck and incredibly fragile with those darned heat tiles and thousands of other problems why dont we use a 747 Jumbo jet instead?

The jumbo jet is much larger and uses fuel more slowly.The air supply near the top of the atmosphere could be supplemented by carrying oxygen and feeding it to the engines.

The payload of the jumbo jet is incredible.Did you see the pictures on the tv the other day of the Shuttle being ferried piggy back on the jumbo jet as it had landed at the wrong place due to bad weather?

The jumbo jet would of course be modified before being converted to a space ship like extra reinforcing structures etc.

Also when landing it would use engines to slow down to normal aircraft speeds before re-entry and use engines to land in the sense that unlike the shuttle which is a glider this would be assited by normal wing lift.No need for heat shields at all as it would decelerate to aircraft speds before entering Earth atmosphere.

The 747 would take of horizontally and angle upwards to follow the curvature of the Earth thus gaining height and speed.

Gaining height decreases air resistance and increases airspeed.
Gaining airspeed means the wing lift would continue to a much higher altitude and then supplemental oxygen from the onboard supplies would be fed to the engines.

Remember as air resistance decreases the 747 will go faster and faster.Also remember a 747 does not burn up fuel in the first few minutes but lasts many hours thus using V=AT the speed will increase to escape velocity of 11.2 km/sec.

Remember a convential rocket is a ballistic missile using all the fuel in a few minutes to accelerate to 11.2km/sec

The 747 would accelerate slowly to escape velocity as described above and can burn fuel for upto 12 hours to gain this 11.2 km/sec.

Do any of you have any objections to the scientific or technical aspects of this.

Also it would be very low cost compared to the shuttle which is very wasteful and only a hundred missions so far fo the 80 billion wasted on it.

Also as wing lift decreases as it goes higher and higher centrifugal force would take over as it gets fastr and faster falling the curve of the Earth.
This would compensate for decreasing wing lift.

Any SCIENTIFIC objections by any of you people?[/quote]
Geeze... where to begin...

Don't be discourage from your interest in aircraft and aerodynamics from my following post. It was only meant to point out some critical engineering flaw in your idea of using a 747 as a replacement of the space shuttle.

First of all, how does an airplane generate lift? Air flowing over its wing.The lift of an airplane can be found by the following equation, where cl is the airplane's lift coefficient.

L = 1/2*cl * density * velocity^2

What happens when you go up in altitude? density drops. Yes that is why your drag decreases. But at the same time, the lift generated by your wings will also decrease. To increase the maximum altitude of your airplane, you will need to either increase Cl or velocity. To increase CL, you need to fly at a higher angle of attack or make the wing bigger. And as you go up in altitude, the wing that is needed will be so big that it is totally impractical.

Increasing the velocity means you will need more power. Power on a 747 comes from 4 turbofan Engines(type of jet engine). How does a jet engine work? Burn fuel and oxygen. What happens at 80,000ft? There's hardly any oxygen left and your engine becomes less and less fuel efficient, cranking out less and less power. You can't just pump liquid oxygen into a jet engine and make it work (it just does not work that way).

How does the sattelites, space shuttle, space station maintain orbit? Speed. In order to maintain an orbit you need to get your space craft to at certain speed. This speed can be more than twenty times greater than the speed of sound or Mach 20+(ground relative speed). How fast does a 747 fly? About 85% of the speed of sound or Mach 0.85. And since the engine and the aerodynamics of the 747 is not designed for hypersonic or even supersonic flight, no matter how hard you push the throttle, and even if you go into a dive, you are not likely to make the 747 to reach even Mach 1.

If you really are interested in aerodynamics and aerospace engineering. I recommend you read "A History of Aerodynamics" by John D. Anderson. It gives you an intersting history and basic understanding of how airplane flys.

By the way, a speed of 11.2km/sec is no joke, that's equivalent to 25,053 miles per hour. Mach 0.85, is only 647 miles per hour, you are talking about a 2 order of magnitude increase of speed. And even the fastest jet aircraft in the world (SR-71, AKA A-12) which flys at Mach 3, or 2283 miles per hour. Even that is 10 times less than than 11.2km/sec escape velocity required.

Oh, one more thing, Space shuttles, satellites, and space stations do not need to fly at 11.2km/sec. Escape velocity is the velocity required to escape the pull of Earth's gravity. If you are going to the moon, you'll need 11.2 km/sec. But if you are just going to orbit the Earth then all you need is an appropriate orbital velocity for the size of the orbit you wish. Orbital velocity is much less than 11.2km/s but still hopelessly faster than what the SR-71, and infinitly faster than what the 747 can fly at.

better stop here for now... [/quote]

Flaw in your arguement:-"Increasing the velocity means you will need more power".

As long as the friction holding the plane back gets less and less even an ant pushing the plane will make it accelerate.

So as the plane gets higher and higher air drag will fall ,speed will increase,lift will be maintained due to increasing speed for same wing area and at same thrust from engines.

As the plane gets above the atmosphere centrifugal force will take over due to increasing velocity and lift plane higher.This will replace wing lift.In essence the plane will be a mass on a string and will be "pulled outwards" as the mass speed increases and air drag goes down to zero.

a=v*2/r
f=mv*2/r on the plane.as you can see from this fundamental equation for celestial physics the force on the plane lifting it up and taking over from winglift increases with increasing velocity squared.
The thrust from the 747 engines is 4x250000 newtons=1 million newtons.

http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/BGP/Donna/t_w_ratio_answers.htm

The mass of a fully laden 747 is 300000 kilograms.

Even at a lowly speed of 800km/hour the 747 gets an upward force of 0.01 m/s.But remember if the speed doubles then this will increase as the square of the speed.



v=at , f=ma

example 1:-

Suppose no air existed on planet Earth then a rocket ship traveling horizontally will continue to gain velocity no matter how small the thrust in the absence of any other frictional forces.This is fundamental physics.
The military already have designed and tested jets with supplemental oxygen being fed at higher altitudes.

You are correct about the 11.2 kn/sec and orbital velocity but we dont really want to just orbit the Earth.
Your arguement about how satelittes stay in orbit is flawed.
Satellites are falling towards Earth but they have 2 components to their velocity.downwards and forwards.it is falling but also travelling forwards and so follows the curvature of the Earth.
Someone above said centrifugal force does not exist yet every physics book mentions it.Explain this.
Yes, yes we all know its also called centripetal acceleration ,blah,blah.


[quote][b]Posted by KOSMOS:[/b]
[quote][b]Posted by ESECO:[/b]
With the Space Shuttle being a dead duck and incredibly fragile with those darned heat tiles and thousands of other problems why dont we use a 747 Jumbo jet instead?

The jumbo jet is much larger and uses fuel more slowly.The air supply near the top of the atmosphere could be supplemented by carrying oxygen and feeding it to the engines.

The payload of the jumbo jet is incredible.Did you see the pictures on the tv the other day of the Shuttle being ferried piggy back on the jumbo jet as it had landed at the wrong place due to bad weather?

The jumbo jet would of course be modified before being converted to a space ship like extra reinforcing structures etc.

Also when landing it would use engines to slow down to normal aircraft speeds before re-entry and use engines to land in the sense that unlike the shuttle which is a glider this would be assited by normal wing lift.No need for heat shields at all as it would decelerate to aircraft speds before entering Earth atmosphere.

The 747 would take of horizontally and angle upwards to follow the curvature of the Earth thus gaining height and speed.

Gaining height decreases air resistance and increases airspeed.
Gaining airspeed means the wing lift would continue to a much higher altitude and then supplemental oxygen from the onboard supplies would be fed to the engines.

Remember as air resistance decreases the 747 will go faster and faster.Also remember a 747 does not burn up fuel in the first few minutes but lasts many hours thus using V=AT the speed will increase to escape velocity of 11.2 km/sec.

Remember a convential rocket is a ballistic missile using all the fuel in a few minutes to accelerate to 11.2km/sec

The 747 would accelerate slowly to escape velocity as described above and can burn fuel for upto 12 hours to gain this 11.2 km/sec.

Do any of you have any objections to the scientific or technical aspects of this.

Also it would be very low cost compared to the shuttle which is very wasteful and only a hundred missions so far fo the 80 billion wasted on it.

Also as wing lift decreases as it goes higher and higher centrifugal force would take over as it gets fastr and faster falling the curve of the Earth.
This would compensate for decreasing wing lift.

Any SCIENTIFIC objections by any of you people?[/quote]
Geeze... where to begin...

Don't be discourage from your interest in aircraft and aerodynamics from my following post. It was only meant to point out some critical engineering flaw in your idea of using a 747 as a replacement of the space shuttle.

First of all, how does an airplane generate lift? Air flowing over its wing.The lift of an airplane can be found by the following equation, where cl is the airplane's lift coefficient.

L = 1/2*cl * density * velocity^2

What happens when you go up in altitude? density drops. Yes that is why your drag decreases. But at the same time, the lift generated by your wings will also decrease. To increase the maximum altitude of your airplane, you will need to either increase Cl or velocity. To increase CL, you need to fly at a higher angle of attack or make the wing bigger. And as you go up in altitude, the wing that is needed will be so big that it is totally impractical.

Increasing the velocity means you will need more power. Power on a 747 comes from 4 turbofan Engines(type of jet engine). How does a jet engine work? Burn fuel and oxygen. What happens at 80,000ft? There's hardly any oxygen left and your engine becomes less and less fuel efficient, cranking out less and less power. You can't just pump liquid oxygen into a jet engine and make it work (it just does not work that way).

How does the sattelites, space shuttle, space station maintain orbit? Speed. In order to maintain an orbit you need to get your space craft to at certain speed. This speed can be more than twenty times greater than the speed of sound or Mach 20+(ground relative speed). How fast does a 747 fly? About 85% of the speed of sound or Mach 0.85. And since the engine and the aerodynamics of the 747 is not designed for hypersonic or even supersonic flight, no matter how hard you push the throttle, and even if you go into a dive, you are not likely to make the 747 to reach even Mach 1.

If you really are interested in aerodynamics and aerospace engineering. I recommend you read "A History of Aerodynamics" by John D. Anderson. It gives you an intersting history and basic understanding of how airplane flys.

By the way, a speed of 11.2km/sec is no joke, that's equivalent to 25,053 miles per hour. Mach 0.85, is only 647 miles per hour, you are talking about a 2 order of magnitude increase of speed. And even the fastest jet aircraft in the world (SR-71, AKA A-12) which flys at Mach 3, or 2283 miles per hour. Even that is 10 times less than than 11.2km/sec escape velocity required.

Oh, one more thing, Space shuttles, satellites, and space stations do not need to fly at 11.2km/sec. Escape velocity is the velocity required to escape the pull of Earth's gravity. If you are going to the moon, you'll need 11.2 km/sec. But if you are just going to orbit the Earth then all you need is an appropriate orbital velocity for the size of the orbit you wish. Orbital velocity is much less than 11.2km/s but still hopelessly faster than what the SR-71, and infinitly faster than what the 747 can fly at.

better stop here for now... [/quote]

Flaw in your arguement:-"Increasing the velocity means you will need more power".

As long as the friction holding the plane back gets less and less even an ant pushing the plane will make it accelerate.

So as the plane gets higher and higher air drag will fall ,speed will increase,lift will be maintained due to increasing speed for same wing area and at same thrust from engines.

As the plane gets above the atmosphere centrifugal force will take over due to increasing velocity and lift plane higher.This will replace wing lift.In essence the plane will be a mass on a string and will be "pulled outwards" as the mass speed increases and air drag goes down to zero.

a=v*2/r
f=mv*2/r on the plane.as you can see from this fundamental equation for celestial physics the force on the plane lifting it up and taking over from winglift increases with increasing velocity squared.



v=at , f=ma

example 1:-

Suppose no air existed on planet Earth then a rocket ship traveling horizontally will continue to gain velocity no matter how small the thrust in the absence of any other frictional forces.This is fundamental physics.
The military already have designed and tested jets with supplemental oxygen being fed at higher altitudes.

You are correct about the 11.2 kn/sec and orbital velocity but we dont really want to just orbit the Earth.
Your arguement about how satelittes stay in orbit is flawed.
Satellites are falling towards Earth but they have 2 components to their velocity.downwards and forwards.it is falling but also travelling forwards and so follows the curvature of the Earth.
Someone above said centrifugal force does not exist yet every physics book mentions it.Explain this.
Yes, yes we all know its also called centripetal acceleration ,blah,blah.






Many people in the West want many very many people in


poor underdeveloped countries to reduce breeding rates

to aid in reducing poverty and starvation and

improve health and reduce resource consumption.


To this effect these people advocate these poor people to use birth control or contraceptive pills.

contraceptive bills are very expensive and can cost a 2 months wages and have deadly side effects in some people and can cause chemical pollution of the environment if a billion asians and africans started using them suddenly.

they also advocate condoms.

condoms are very expensive also and can cost a months wages in these poor countries with these poor people who hardly have any money for food even.

I was thinking of this on a summers day as I strolled through my local supermarket.

As I came to the checkout to pay for my very modest puchases (i am not a glutton like some people and immune from supermarket brainwashing going into cynical mode while i am there) I noticed carrier bags in a bundle free for THE taking.these carrier bags are in bundles of 1000 and the blond haired blue pony tailed eyed chirpy checkout operator told me they only cost $1.10 to buy.

Being free i always grab many handfuls of these carrier bags for later use.

Now condoms cost 10 per £4 or even dearer depending on attributes like size, flavour,colour,glow in the dark....

Now due to this cost its impossible for any poor person in a undeveloped country to afford these condoms.


My awesome solution is to use carrier bags as condoms.
they are very cheap,come in varying sizes,colours,textures,thicknesses and are very cheap.

1000 per £1.

even poor people could afford this.or even distribute these free.

or even airdrop these carrier bag condoms with instructions.

a bottle of olive oil can be used as lubricant but some carrier bags i note are quite slippery and could be presoaked in olive oil before beng airdopped or even during manufacture.


.....have you noticed if you store oil in plastic how it percolates through the plastic?

... thus by using this method we can help to reduce unwanted births and suffering and salve our consciences.

REMEMBER THIS:THIS METHOD IS LOW COST.DIRT CHEAP.

I URGE REAL DECENT PEOPLE TO CONTACT THEIR LOCAL AID ORGANIZATON RIGHT NOW TO ADVISE THEM AND START SAVING LIVES.



As expected you fell into my trap regarding ant lifetimes and ion engines....



these were red herrings designed to test your intelligence and comprehension and you failed as expected by attacking me on spelling grammer,and ant lifetimes ,etc...

just as i predicted.

again.

you FAILED TO SEE MY POINT about fuel burning...
u failed about friction...
you failed on newtons 3 of laws of motion....

u failed about lift from wings...

heat generation was already advised
about...u clearly fail to read what is written...
heat is reduced by slowing down...
no tiles required...


this shows i am right again as u clearly evaded all the IMPORTANT POINTS AND WENT AFTER ANT LIFETIMES AND ION ENGINES AS I PREDICTED YOU WOULD.

I CHALLENGE YOU TO ADDRESS/DEMOLISH THE POINTS/SOLUTIONS I RAISED.




Dear Sir
Look your petty dictatorial attitude is endangering lives.
we all know you get crumbs thrown to you by big pharma in the form of cheap drugs donations past their sell by date or other substandard drugs dished out to you to keep you loyal and quiet.Kiteman works for big pharma and managed to trick you.

No matter the internet is not controlled by you or kiteman.

By the way all medicine is experimental.thats why 246040 people in the USA died from adverse side reactions from these FDA approved drugs.
Of course these poor bastards did not get the same amount of corrupt publicity as the 3500 who died in 9/11.

Your ignorance and lap dog attitude is endangering the people who you claim to give aid too.

246040 are JAMA figures.

Maybe you should try to get your head out of your ass and see the bigger picture instead of the trench mentality which you exhibit.

Dr E Callum.

<< Subj: [Fwd: MALARIA TREATMENT - NEW -]
Date: 15/08/2005 11:28:01 GMT Daylight Time
From: forumadmin@aidworkers.net (AWN Forum Administrator)
To: veganexus256@aol.com

Dear Sir --

Recalling my message to you of July 14, and since we are a specialised
service for aid workers, and not a forum that offers experimental medical
advice, I have removed the below message.

Since you have disregarded my polite request, I have also suspended your
membership of the AWN Discussion Forum.

Thanks for your time.

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Now that's funny!
..a person who can't see the most simple correlations won something in a
contest that only that person was in.
Well, that's no surprise. I can race myself and win every time without
even standing up.
Does crossing the finish line with ones left foot mean that the left foot
won the foot race?
I guess so!
I won! I AM my left foot..not my right foot. [The loser!]

Lookie here. A dogs lungs work so close to exactly like people lungs that
valid testing can be done with them instead of risking harming people.
The effects of unequal meetings of mass and velocity work the same way on
dogs as people...well, OK...people go splat then sue and dogs just go splat.
..nevermind..

I think I'll go look in a mirror to make sure my eyes are shut. -)

Ode

Saying that a dogs lungs are different because dogs have to
pant..while
people only 'can' pant to the same effect, therefore particulates take
an
entirely different route..is like saying that people can't walk
because
they don't have enough feet.
While that might be a sort of sideways 'truth' from a dogs point of
view,
it's only because dogs don't know much about walking on two feet...and
that's not because they 'can't' walk on two feet...most of them just
never
looked into doing it, those that have don't do it very well and bark
out
silly arguements against it. [perhaps citing the fact that people who
do
that tend to fall over more than dogs...those stupid people]

__________________________________

Many years ago I saw a pye dog who lived in a railway station in India.

He had lost his back legs to a train. He did very well walking on two
legs
with his backside up in the air.

Therefore, in keeping with the spirit of this debate and using the
rules of logic
as they have been demonstrated here, I have proven conclusively that
dog lungs work exactly the same as human lungs because both dogs and
humans can walk very well on two legs.

VACCINES DANGERS-INTERVIEW

http://www.whale.to/v/rapp.html

"...no long-term studies are done on any vaccines.
Long-term follow-up is not done in any careful way. Why?
Because, again, the assumption is made that vaccines do not
cause problems. So why should anyone check? On top of
that, a vaccine reaction is defined so that all bad
reactions are said to occur very soon after the shot is
given. But that does not make sense... Because the vaccine
obviously acts in the body for a long period of time after
it is given. A reaction can be gradual. Deterioration can
be gradual. Neurological problems can develop over time.
They do in various conditions...


Jon Rappoport interview of ex vaccine researcher


Q: You were once certain that vaccines were the hallmark of
good medicine.

A: Yes I was. I helped develop a few vaccines. I won't say
which ones.

Q: Why not?

A: I want to preserve my privacy.

Q: So you think you could have problems if you came out into
the open?

A: I believe I could lose my pension.

Q: On what grounds?

A: The grounds don't matter. These people have ways of causing
you problems, when you were once part of the Club. I know one
or two people who were put under surveillance, who were
harassed.

Q: Harassed by whom?

A: The FBI.

Q: Really?

A: Sure. The FBI used other pretexts. And the IRS can come
calling too.

Q: So much for free speech.

A: I was "part of the inner circle." If now I began to name
names and make specific accusations against researchers, I
could be in a world of trouble.

Q: What is at the bottom of these efforts at harassment?

A: Vaccines are the last defense of modern medicine. Vaccines
are the ultimate justification for the overall "brilliance" of
modern medicine.

Q: Do you believe that people should be allowed to choose
whether they should get vaccines?

A: On a political level, yes. On a scientific level, people
need information, so that they can choose well. It's one thing
to say choice is good. But if the atmosphere is full of lies,
how can you choose? Also, if the FDA were run by honorable
people, these vaccines would not be granted licenses. They
would be investigated to within an inch of their lives.

Q: There are medical historians who state that the overall
decline of illnesses was not due to vaccines.

A: I know. For a long time, I ignored their work.

Q: Why?

A: Because I was afraid of what I would find out. I was in the
business of developing vaccines. My livelihood depended on
continuing that work.

Q: And then?

A: I did my own investigation.

Q: What conclusions did you come to?

A: The decline of disease is due to improved living
conditions.

Q: What conditions?

A: Cleaner water. Advanced sewage systems. Nutrition. Fresher
food. A decrease in poverty. Germs may be everywhere, but
when you are healthy, you don't contract the diseases as
easily.

Q: What did you feel when you completed your own
investigation?

A: Despair. I realized I was working a sector based on a
collection of lies.

Q: Are some vaccines more dangerous than others?

A: Yes. The DPT shot, for example. The MMR. But some lots of a
vaccine are more dangerous than other lots of the same
vaccine. As far as I'm concerned, all vaccines are dangerous.

Q: Why?

A: Several reasons. They involve the human immune system in a
process that tends to compromise immunity. They can actually
cause the disease they are supposed to prevent. They can cause
other diseases than the ones they are supposed to prevent.

Q: Why are we quoted statistics which seem to prove that
vaccines have been tremendously successful at wiping out
diseases?

A: Why? To give the illusion that these vaccines are useful.
If a vaccine suppresses visible symptoms of a disease like
measles, everyone assumes that the vaccine is a success. But,
under the surface, the vaccine can harm the immune system
itself. And if it causes other diseases -- say, meningitis --
that fact is masked, because no one believes that the vaccine
can do that. The connection is overlooked.

Q: It is said that the smallpox vaccine wiped out smallpox in
England.

A: Yes. But when you study the available statistics, you get
another picture.

Q: Which is?

A: There were cities in England where people who were not
vaccinated did not get smallpox. There were places where
people who were vaccinated experienced smallpox epidemics. And
smallpox was already on the decline before the vaccine was
introduced.

Q: So you're saying that we have been treated to a false
history.

A: Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. This is a history that
has been cooked up to convince people that vaccines are
invariably safe and effective.

Q: Now, you worked in labs. Where purity was an issue.

A: The public believes that these labs, these manufacturing
facilities are the cleanest places in the world. That is not
true. Contamination occurs all the time. You get all sorts of
debris introduced into vaccines.

Q: For example, the SV40 monkey virus slips into the polio
vaccine.

A: Well yes, that happened. But that's not what I mean. The
SV40 got into the polio vaccine because the vaccine was made
by using monkey kidneys. But I'm talking about something
else. The actual lab conditions. The mistakes. The careless
errors. SV40, which was later found in cancer tumors -- that
was what I would call a structural problem. It was an accepted
part of the manufacturing process. If you use monkey kidneys,
you open the door to germs which you don't know are in those
kidneys.

Q: Okay, but let's ignore that distinction between different
types of contaminants for a moment. What contaminants did you
find in your many years of work with vaccines?

A: All right. I'll give you some of what I came across, and
I'll also give you what colleagues of mine found. Here's a
partial list. In the Rimavex measles vaccine, we found various
chicken viruses. In polio vaccine, we found acanthamoeba,
which is a so-called "brain-eating" amoeba.

Simian cytomegalovirus in polio vaccine. Simian foamy virus in
the rotavirus vaccine. Bird-cancer viruses in the MMR vaccine.
Various micro-organisms in the anthrax vaccine. I've found
potentially dangerous enzyme inhibitors in several vaccines.
Duck, dog, and rabbit viruses in the rubella vaccine. Avian
leucosis virus in the flu vaccine. Pestivirus in the MMR
vaccine.

Q: Let me get this straight. These are all contaminants which
don't belong in the vaccines.

A: That's right. And if you try to calculate what damage these
contaminants can cause, well, we don't really know, because no
testing has been done, or very little testing. It's a game of
roulette. You take your chances. Also, most people don't know
that some polio vaccines, adenovirus vaccines, rubella and hep
A and measles vaccines have been made with aborted human fetal
tissue. I have found what I believed were bacterial fragments
and poliovirus in these vaccines from time to time -- which
may have come from that fetal tissue. When you look for
contaminants in vaccines, you can come up with material that
IS puzzling. You know it shouldn't be there, but you don't
know exactly what you've got. I have found what I believed was
a very small "fragment" of human hair and also human mucus. I
have found what can only be called "foreign protein," which
could mean almost anything. It could mean protein from
viruses.

Q: Alarm bells are ringing all over the place.

A: How do you think I felt? Remember, this material is going
into the bloodstream without passing through some of the
ordinary immune defenses.

Q: How were your findings received?

A: Basically, it was, don't worry, this can't be helped. In
making vaccines, you use various animals' tissue, and that's
where this kind of contamination enters in. Of course, I'm not
even mentioning the standard chemicals like formaldehyde,
mercury, and aluminum which are purposely put into vaccines.

Q: This information is pretty staggering.

A: Yes. And I'm just mentioning some of the biological
contaminants. Who knows how many others there are? Others we
don't find because we don't think to look for them. If tissue
from, say, a bird is used to make a vaccine, how many possible
germs can be in that tissue? We have no idea. We have no idea
what they might be, or what effects they could have on humans.

Q: And beyond the purity issue?

A: You are dealing with the basic faulty premise about
vaccines. That they intricately stimulate the immune system
to create the conditions for immunity from disease. That is
the bad premise. It doesn't work that way. A vaccine is
supposed to "create" antibodies which, indirectly, offer
protection against disease. However, the immune system is much
larger and more involved than antibodies and their related
"killer cells."

Q: The immune system is?

A: The entire body, really. Plus the mind. It's all immune
system, you might say. That is why you can have, in the middle
of an epidemic, those individuals who remain healthy.

Q: So the level of general health is important.

A: More than important. Vital.

Q: How are vaccine statistics falsely presented?

A: There are many ways. For example, suppose that 25 people
who have received the hepatitis B vaccine come down with
hepatitis. Well, hep B is a liver disease. But you can call
liver disease many things. You can change the diagnosis. Then,
you've concealed the root cause of the problem.

Q: And that happens?

A: All the time. It HAS to happen, if the doctors
automatically assume that people who get vaccines DO NOT come
down with the diseases they are now supposed to be protected
from. And that is exactly what doctors assume. You see, it's
circular reasoning. It's a closed system. It admits no fault.
No possible fault. If a person who gets a vaccine against
hepatitis gets hepatitis, or gets some other disease, the
automatic assumption is, this had nothing to do with the
disease.

Q: In your years working in the vaccine establishment, how
many doctors did you encounter who admitted that vaccines were
a problem?

A: None. There were a few who privately questioned what they
were doing. But they would never go public, even within their
companies.

Q: What was the turning point for you?

A: I had a friend whose baby died after a DPT shot.

Q: Did you investigate?

A: Yes, informally. I found that this baby was completely
healthy before the vaccination. There was no reason for his
death, except the vaccine. That started my doubts. Of course,
I wanted to believe that the baby had gotten a bad shot from a
bad lot. But as I looked into this further, I found that was
not the case in this instance. I was being drawn into a spiral
of doubt that increased over time. I continued to investigate.
I found that, contrary to what I thought, vaccines are not
tested in a scientific way.

Q: What do you mean?

A: For example, no long-term studies are done on any vaccines.
Long-term follow-up is not done in any careful way. Why?
Because, again, the assumption is made that vaccines do not
cause problems. So why should anyone check? On top of that, a
vaccine reaction is defined so that all bad reactions are said
to occur very soon after the shot is given. But that does not
make sense.

Q: Why doesn't it make sense?

A: Because the vaccine obviously acts in the body for a long
period of time after it is given. A reaction can be gradual.
Deterioration can be gradual. Neurological problems can
develop over time. They do in various conditions, even
according to a conventional analysis. So why couldn't that be
the case with vaccines? If chemical poisoning can occur
gradually, why couldn't that be the case with a vaccine which
contains mercury?

Q: And that is what you found?

A: Yes. You are dealing with correlations, most of the time.
Correlations are not perfect. But if you get 500 parents whose
children have suffered neurological damage during a one-year
period after having a vaccine, this should be sufficient to
spark off an intense investigation.

Q: Has it been enough?

A: No. Never. This tells you something right away.

Q: Which is?

A: The people doing the investigation are not really
interested in looking at the facts. They assume that the
vaccines are safe. So, when they do investigate, they
invariably come up with exonerations of the vaccines. They
say, "This vaccine is safe." But what do they base those
judgments on? They base them on definitions and ideas which
automatically rule out a condemnation of the vaccine.

Q: There are numerous cases where a vaccine campaign has
failed. Where people have come down with the disease against
which they were vaccinated.

A: Yes, there are many such instances. And there the evidence
is simply ignored. It's discounted. The experts say, if they
say anything at all, that this is just an isolated situation,
but overall the vaccine has been shown to be safe. But if you
add up all the vaccine campaigns where damage and disease have
occurred, you realize that these are NOT isolated situations.

Q: Did you ever discuss what we are talking about here with
colleagues, when you were still working in the vaccine
establishment?

A: Yes I did.

Q: What happened?

A: Several times I was told to keep quiet. It was made clear
that I should go back to work and forget my misgivings. On a
few occasions, I encountered fear. Colleagues tried to avoid
me. They felt they could be labeled with "guilt by
association." All in all, though, I behaved myself. I made
sure I didn't create problems for myself.

Q: If vaccines actually do harm, why are they given?

A: First of all, there is no "if." They do harm. It becomes a
more difficult question to decide whether they do harm in
those people who seem to show no harm. Then you are dealing
with the kind of research which should be done, but isn't.
Researchers should be probing to discover a kind of map, or
flow chart, which shows exactly what vaccines do in the body
from the moment they enter. This research has not been done.
As to why they are given, we could sit here for two days and
discuss all the reasons. As you've said many times, at
different layers of the system people have their motives.
Money, fear of losing a job, the desire to win brownie points,
prestige, awards, promotion, misguided idealism, unthinking
habit, and so on. But, at the highest levels of the medical
cartel, vaccines are a top priority because they cause a
weakening of the immune system. I know that may be hard to
accept, but it's true. The medical cartel, at the highest
level, is not out to help people, it is out to harm them, to
weaken them. To kill them. At one point in my career, I had
a long conversation with a man who occupied a high government
position in an African nation. He told me that he was well
aware of this. He told me that WHO is a front for these
depopulation interests. There is an underground, shall we say,
in Africa, made up of various officials who are earnestly
trying to change the lot of the poor. This network of people
knows what is going on. They know that vaccines have been
used, and are being used, to destroy their countries, to make
them ripe for takeover by globalist powers. I have had the
opportunity to speak with several of these people from this
network.

Q: Is Thabo Mbeki, the president of South Africa, aware of the
situation?

A: I would say he is partially aware. Perhaps he is not
utterly convinced, but he is on the way to realizing the whole
truth. He already knows that HIV is a hoax. He knows that the
AIDS drugs are poisons which destroy the immune system. He
also knows that if he speaks out, in any way, about the
vaccine issue, he will be branded a lunatic. He has enough
trouble after his stand on the AIDS issue.

Q: This network you speak of.

A: It has accumulated a huge amount of information about
vaccines. The question is, how is a successful strategy going
to be mounted? For these people, that is a difficult issue.

Q: And in the industrialized nations?

A: The medical cartel has a stranglehold, but it is
diminishing. Mainly because people have the freedom to
question medicines. However, if the choice issue [the right to
take or reject any medicine] does not gather steam, these
coming mandates about vaccines against biowarefare germs are
going to win out. This is an important time.

Q: The furor over the hepatitis B vaccine seems one good
avenue.

A: I think so, yes. To say that babies must have the vaccine
-- and then in the next breath, admitting that a person gets
hep B from sexual contacts and shared needles -- is a
ridiculous juxtaposition. Medical authorities try to cover
themselves by saying that 20,000 or so children in the US get
hep B every year from "unknown causes," and that's why every
baby must have the vaccine. I dispute that 20,00 figure and
the so-called studies that back it up.

Q: Andrew Wakefield, the British MD who uncovered the link
between the MMR vaccine and autism, has just been fired from
his job in a London hospital.

A: Yes. Wakefield performed a great service. His correlations
between the vaccine and autism are stunning. Perhaps you know
that Tony Blair's wife is involved with alternative health.
There is the possibility that their child has not been given
the MMR. Blair recently side-stepped the question in press
interviews, and made it seem that he was simply objecting to
invasive questioning of his "personal and family life." In
any event, I believe his wife has been muzzled. I think, if
given the chance, she would at least say she is sympathetic to
all the families who have come forward and stated that their
children were severely damaged by the MMR.

Q: British reporters should try to get through to her.

A: They have been trying. But I think she has made a deal with
her husband to keep quiet, no matter what. She could do a
great deal of good if she breaks her promise. I have been told
she is under pressure, and not just from her husband. At the
level she occupies, MI6 and British health authorities get
into the act. It is thought of as a matter of national
security.

Q: Well, it is national security, once you understand the
medical cartel.

A: It is global security. The cartel operates in every nation.
It zealously guards the sanctity of vaccines. Questioning
these vaccines is on the same level as a Vatican bishop
questioning the sanctity of the sacrament of the Eucharist in
the Catholic Church.

Q: I know that a Hollywood celebrity stating publicly that he
will not take a vaccine is committing career suicide.

A: Hollywood is linked very powerfully to the medical cartel.
There are several reasons, but one of them is simply that an
actor who is famous can draw a huge amount of publicity if he
says ANYTHING. In 1992, I was present at your demonstration
against the FDA in downtown Los Angeles. One or two actors
spoke against the FDA. Since that time, you would be hard
pressed to find an actor who has spoken out in any way against
the medical cartel.

Q: Within the National Institutes of Health, what is the mood,
what is the basic frame of mind?

A: People are competing for research monies. The last thing
they think about is challenging the status quo. They are
already in an intramural war for that money. They don't need
more trouble. This is a very insulated system. It depends on
the idea that, by and large, modern medicine is very
successful on every frontier. To admit systemic problems in
any area is to cast doubt on the whole enterprise. You might
therefore think that NIH is the last place one should think
about holding demonstrations. But just the reverse is true. If
five thousand people showed up there demanding an accounting
of the actual benefits of that research system, demanding to
know what real health benefits have been conferred on the
public from the billions of wasted dollars funneled to that
facility, something might start. A spark might go off. You
might get, with further demonstrations, all sorts of fall-out.
Researchers -- a few -- might start leaking information.

Q: A good idea.

A: People in suits standing as close to the buildings as the
police will allow. People in business suits, in jogging suits,
mothers and babies. Well-off people. Poor people. All sorts of
people.

Q: What about the combined destructive power of a number of
vaccines given to babies these days?

A: It is a travesty and a crime. There are no real studies of
any depth which have been done on that. Again, the assumption
is made that vaccines are safe, and therefore any number of
vaccines given together are safe as well. But the truth is,
vaccines are not safe. Therefore the potential damage
increases when you give many of them in a short time period.

Q: Then we have the fall flu season.

A: Yes. As if only in the autumn do these germs float in to
the US from Asia. The public swallows that premise. If it
happens in April, it is a bad cold. If it happens in October,
it is the flu.

Q: Do you regret having worked all those years in the vaccine
field?

A: Yes. But after this interview, I'll regret it a little
less. And I work in other ways. I give out information to
certain people, when I think they will use it well.

Q: What is one thing you want the public to understand?

A: That the burden of proof in establishing the safety and
efficacy of vaccines is on the people who manufacture and
license them for public use. Just that. The burden of proof is
not on you or me. And for proof you need well-designed
long-term studies. You need extensive follow-up. You need to
interview mothers and pay attention to what mothers say about
their babies and what happens to them after vaccination. You
need all these things. The things that are not there.

Q: The things that are not there.

A: Yes.

Q: To avoid any confusion, I'd like you to review, once more,
the disease problems that vaccines can cause. Which diseases,
how that happens.

A: We are basically talking about two potential harmful
outcomes. One, the person gets the disease from the vaccine.
He gets the disease which the vaccine is supposed to protect
him from. Because, some version of the disease is in the
vaccine to begin with. Or two, he doesn't get THAT disease,
but at some later time, maybe right away, maybe not, he
develops another condition which is caused by the vaccine.
That condition could be autism, what's called autism, or it
could be some other disease like meningitis. He could become
mentally disabled.

Q: Is there any way to compare the relative frequency of these
different outcomes?

A: No. Because the follow-up is poor. We can only guess. If
you ask, out of a population of a hundred thousand children
who get a measles vaccine, how many get the measles, and how
many develop other problems from the vaccine, there is a no
reliable answer. That is what I'm saying. Vaccines are
superstitions. And with superstitions, you don't get facts you
can use. You only get stories, most of which are designed to
enforce the superstition. But, from many vaccine campaigns, we
can piece together a narrative that does reveal some very
disturbing things. People have been harmed. The harm is real,
and it can be deep and it can mean death. The harm is NOT
limited to a few cases, as we have been led to believe. In the
US, there are groups of mothers who are testifying about
autism and childhood vaccines. They are coming forward and
standing up at meetings. They are essentially trying to fill
in the gap that has been created by the researchers and
doctors who turn their backs on the whole thing.

Q: Let me ask you this. If you took a child in, say, Boston
and you raised that child with good nutritious food and he
exercised every day and he was loved by his parents, and he
didn't get the measles vaccine, what would be his health
status compared with the average child in Boston who eats
poorly and watches five hours of TV a day and gets the measles
vaccine?

A: Of course there are many factors involved, but I would bet
on the better health status for the first child. If he gets
measles, if he gets it when he is nine, the chances are it
will be much lighter than the measles the second child might
get. I would bet on the first child every time.

Q: How long did you work with vaccines?

A: A long time. Longer than ten years.

Q: Looking back now, can you recall any good reason to say
that vaccines are successful?

A: No, I can't. If I had a child now, the last thing I would
allow is vaccination. I would move out of the state if I had
to. I would change the family name. I would disappear. With my
family. I'm not saying it would come to that. There are ways
to sidestep the system with grace, if you know how to act.
There are exemptions you can declare, in every state, based on
religious and/or philosophic views. But if push came to shove,
I would go on the move.

Q: And yet there are children everywhere who do get vaccines
and appear to be healthy.

A: The operative word is "appear." What about all the
children who can't focus on their studies? What about the
children who have tantrums from time to time? What about the
children who are not quite in possession of all their mental
faculties? I know there are many causes for these things, but
vaccines are one cause. I would not take the chance. I see no
reason to take the chance. And frankly, I see no reason to
allow the government to have the last word. Government
medicine is, from my experience, often a contradiction in
terms. You get one or the other, but not both.

Q: So we come to the level playing field.

A: Yes. Allow those who want the vaccines to take them. Allow
the dissidents to decline to take them. But, as I said
earlier, there is no level playing field if the field is
strewn with lies. And when babies are involved, you have
parents making all the decisions. Those parents need a heavy
dose of truth. What about the child I spoke of who died from
the DPT shot? What information did his parents act on? I can
tell you it was heavily weighted. It was not real information.

Q: Medical PR people, in concert with the press, scare the
hell out of parents with dire scenarios about what will happen
if their kids don't get shots.

A: They make it seem a crime to refuse the vaccine. They
equate it with bad parenting. You fight that with better
information. It is always a challenge to buck the authorities.
And only you can decide whether to do it. It is every person's
responsibility to make up his mind. The medical cartel likes
that bet. It is betting that the fear will win.

_______


Dr. Mark Randall is the pseudonym of a vaccine researcher who
worked for many years in the labs of major pharmaceutical
houses and the US government's National Institutes of Health.

Mark retired during the last decade. He says he was "disgusted
with what he discovered about vaccines."

As you know, since the beginning of nomorefakenews, I have
been launching an attack against non-scientific and dangerous
assertions about the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

Mark has been one of my sources.

He is a little reluctant to speak out, even under the cover of
anonymity, but with the current push to make vaccines
mandatory -- with penalties like quarantine lurking in the
wings -- he has decided to break his silence.

He lives comfortably in retirement, but like many of my
long-time sources, he has developed a conscience about his
former work. Mark is well aware of the scope of the medical
cartel and its goals of depopulation, mind control, and
general debilitation of populations.


Love is who we are, Karen

kareneck@eoni.com


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BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION DISABLES PATHOGENS

This research has been suppressed by the medical-pharmaceutical alliance as its non-drug based and would impact their vast profits would be effected by such low cost devices.

keywords:- BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION


Dear Sir/Madam

Malaria kills at least 3000 children a day and up to 6000 people a day in Africa and Asia.

Passing 50 to 100 microamperes of simple d.c. electrical current through infected blood disables the pathogens and stops it reproducing it was discovered in 1992.

It also works on a broad range of other viruses/bacteria including Hep-A,B,C and also quite importantly for Malaria.You may know malaria is becoming increasingly drug resistant.

See trial study for Malaria at the end below.

BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION.
Research conducted at Albert Einstein College of Medicine, 1300 Morris Park Ave., Bronx, N.Y.10461 in New York

SIMPLE SUMMARY OF METHOD
The current of 0.0003 to 0.001 amps is passed through electrodes of size 0.5 cm by 2 cm located over wrist artery pulse points on each wrist or same wrist.
The current direction may be reversed every 3 or 4 minutes.

PRACTICAL DETAILED APPLICATION.
Remember it is simple electrical current nothing else that disable the virii/pathogens.In the case of the virii the electrical current stops it reproducing by altering the outer protein layer of the pathogen and the bodys immune system removes the remaining viruses.


The level of the current is very low, 0.025 amps is required to electrocute a person.

These devices only use 0.0003 amps to 0.001 amps maximum.This is much less than a Tens device.

1 microampere is 0.000001 amps.

The practical device to neutralise Malaria inside the body consists of two 0.5cm by 2cm long electrodes wrapped in wet cotton or alternatively conductive foam attached to wrist pulse points or other major artery points and then a direct current of 300 microamperes to 1000 microamperes is passed through the electrodes and then through the blood.

(0.3 Milliamps to 1 Milliamps MAX to allow for losses through the skin. 1 milliamp=0.001 amps)

The current maybe adjusted to suit the condition or individuals. These electrodes are simply taped to the wrist artery or other pulse points where large volumes of blood are flowing.

It is important to use these particular electrode dimensions as the current density must be maintained at 4 to 9 microamperes per square millimetre of electrode.

The higher currents near 1 milliamp produce more rapid results.

Every 5 minutes the current direction is reversed to prevent possible electrolysis.The voltage required to drive this current is from 20 to 40 volts max depending on skin resistance.

Four 9 volt batteries in series would be sufficent.In poorer countries three 12 volt car batteries can be used in series. Mains adapters can also be used.

Application times vary from 20 minutes to up to an hour or more daily depending on condition.

BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION RESULTS.
At Beck-n-Stuff and Microelectricitygermkiller a number of private individuals have tried it for a number of viral/bacterial conditions including , Malaria, Cfs, lymphomas and other Cancers with excellent results backed up by blood tests have submitted reports.

The devices are very easy to make yourself and instructions are included at the links below.

Also remember many cancers are caused by virii, bacteria and fungi and parasites as well as genetic and environmental reasons.

http://www.papimi.gr/safe-hiv/AppendixE.htm <---full research paper


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ <----how to make devices yourself.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-n-stuff/ <---user groups of electromed


More general information can be found by typing 'BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION' or 'BECK PROTOCOL'
in web browser.



......recently concluded a small trial we conducted in conjunction
with a medical doctor in Nigeria.

....we relie on doctors who have been exposed to the BECK Protocol to
approach us about conducting a study. MALARIA

A Medical Doctor in Nigeria contacted us in 2001 asking if the blood
electrification aspect of the BECK Protocol was effective against
Malaria. We told him we didn't know but it could be. We sent him a
unit to try on one person who was willing to try it and whose life
would not be put into danger by trying it. About two months later we
heard back from him—the units had been effective with malaria in 5
out of 6 people.

Then we began the long journey (almost eighteen months) of putting
together a proper small trial study. The Nigerian government gave us
a letter of support. Unfortunately due to cultural differences
everything took a lot longer to accomplish. We learned much about
patience. In the end, we decided to stop the study prematurely (we
were originally hoping to have 60 people included in the trial). When
we stopped the trial, 37 people had been enrolled. Stopping
prematurely meant that several of them had not finished the protocol
or the testing. Another limitation was the fact once people tested
negative for malaria, they no longer returned to complete testing and
lab work (they were well so why keep returning to the doctor).

Of the 37 people, 12 were women and 25 were men. The age range was
from 18 to 38. Subjects were either asymptomatic or symptomatic with
malaria. We were unable to test the protocol on individual's with
resistant malaria cases. The type of malaria was P. Falciparum, known
to be the worst strain.

Blood Electrification was administered daily for one hour until lab
work showed negative for malaria. Each person was to be tested for
malaria on days 0, 3, 7, 14 and 28.

Only 8 people completed all the testing. Of these 7 tested negative
for malaria and 1 still tested for malaria.

14 people completed the blood electrification and tested negative,
but they did not complete all of the lab work subsequent to testing
negative.

11 people didn't finish the protocol due to the study being stopped.
Of these 11, all of their malaria loads were reduced, but not
negative.

3 people's records weren't complete so we cannot use the details.

1 person was removed from the study before beginning because they
also had typhoid and due to the parameters of the study they could
not be included with the study.

An important note is that the majority of people testing negative
showed negative between day 3 and day 7 testing. Also, virtually
everyone had a significant reduction or elimination of symptoms on
day 3.

This study is by no means conclusive, however we feel it has given us
some good information as to the possible effectiveness of blood
electrification as per Bob Beck with malaria. We are very much
interested in continuing the research in this area, and are doing our
best at finding funds that may be available to us now that we have an
indication of the effectiveness.
We have other research projects that are in the beginning
administrative stages. Once completed we will release the information.

DONATING BLOOD ELECTRIFICATION DEVICES.

SOTA has also been donating units to a few organizations in Africa.
One such group operates out of remote villages in South Africa. They
have approximately 90 health care workers that go out into the
villages, trying to help people. SOTA sent them several units to use
in the villages. We have not had a lot of feedback from them...you
can imagine how difficult communication is between third world
conditions in these villages and our ultra-modern society. However
the feedback we get always touches our hearts. We are planning on
sending a unit for each of their health care workers so that they
will be able to help more individiuals. We have recently designed a
unit for those in economically poor countries so they can afford what
we consider the most important part of the BECK Protocol—blood
electrification.

We have been told that people in the villages line up to use the
units. The blood electrification units have to be shared and so go on
to the next worker in another village. Unfortunately this means the
treatment gets stopped prematurely in each village. For this reason
we are going to send one unit per heatlh care worker.

Its vital to remember that malaria kills more people than news fashionable diseases like Aids or Sars.

These devices are very simple to make and very low cost.Many people can be treated at the same time.No complicated drugs with side effects are involved.I urge you to investigate and pursue this and to conduct your own experiments to satisfy yourself.

Perhaps support could be invited from Bill Gates or Richard Branson and other media celebrities.

Many people in this forum will have contacts in Microsoft and maybe with Bill Gates and could advise him to focus on this ultra low cost non drug based method.Remember its broad spectrum and not confined to Malaria.

I urge the people reading this to study this and save the information or webpage and pass it on to young bright biophysics student groups for further study if they cant do anything themselves.

You should get a student group or a close associate to do the preliminary experiments/trials and then proceed full steam ahead.

Full instructions on how to make the simple low cost blood electrification devices are included in the above urls.Remember blood electrification can be applied to other conditions too as well as malaria. Some people state they feel much better after using blood electrification due to a lower virial load in the blood.

I hope you will respond to this email and help the many people suffering and dying in Africa and Asia.

The point of this information is for you to further study and implement the findings and start saving lives.

Dr E. Callum

WHAT TO DO IF YOU GET MRSA INFECTION

WHAT TO DO IF YOU CONTRACT ANTIBIOTIC RESISTANT MRSA.

With MRSA infections increasing rapidly in and out of hospitals the below information will save your life and limb if followed carefully after other options like pharamaceutical drugs have failed you.

You should always consult a registered health practitioner and use the below information as a last resort although using it earlier may help you to avoid complications as the treatment is not harmful if followed as below.

It is non-patentable , non-drug based and therefore not profitable for established pharmaceutical companies.

Your doctor will dismiss it automatically but you should do your own research using a search engine like google.


If you are infected with antibiotic resistant MRSA and wish to save your limb and life then the following set of instructions will save your life.I suggest you save this information and pass it around.

If a limb has become infected with MRSA and your doctor suggests amputation and if you dont want it amputated then wash the effected limp in warm water and scrub gently away any dead surface skin cells.

While the limb is still wet put it in a thick plastic bag and seal it in with sellotape around the edges so thats its airtight.

Next get a the hose from an Ozone generator and make a small hole in the bag and seal it with sellotape to make it airtight.

Then switch on the ozone generator and leave it on for from 1 to 4 hours depending on severity of infection.

You can repeat the treatment over a few days for very acute cases.

The ozone gas will kill any MRSA on the skin and transdermal zxone will go through the skin and kill any MRSA inside the limb.

Its a good idea to open the windows while you are ozonating the limp as ozone is not good for the lungs.


If the infection is not in a limb which can be easily wrapped in a plastic bag then do the up to the neck ozone bagging again using sellotape to seal the bag at the neck so its airtight.Use a large thick binliner and stand in it while a friend/relation seals you up.Again open the windows.

But have a warm bath prior to ozone bagging and again to speed things up a gentle scrubbing to remove dead skin before bagging.

You will find this saves your limb and life.

Ozone generators can be purchased from google and can cost from £160 upwards and last a very long time.

The generator costing around £160 or $200 will be more then adequate as long as the ozone output is around 200 to 300 mg/hour.

Drinking ozonated cold water will increase the elimination of the MRSA infection and associated toxins even more quickly.

I suggest you all look up medical ozone in google or transdermal ozone or ozone bagging or variations thereof.

This will give you additional research materiels

I already have an ozone generator and routinely drink ozonated water to keep healthy.The water gives you a slightly heady feeling as if you had too much oxygen for a few seconds after you drink it.

The point of this information is to enable you to save your own life and limb after other options have failed you.

You should save this information as a text file and spread it around.